• panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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    Where trans people piss is definitely the most important thing Kansas should focus on…

    Fuck Republicans.

  • I really hope cis people globally start to realize that all the attacks on trans people are a way to test the waters for fascism. We were among the first people targeted a hundred years ago, and we’re among the first people targeted today

    Trans and disabled people are the canary in the fascist coal mine

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      It’s also been a great way for them to dismantle women’s rights, while proclaiming themselves as “feminists” or “protecting women.”

      Being able to ban trans medical care sets a precedent for intervention in medical care, which makes it easier for them to attack abortion and other reproductive health care rights. (Contraception is definitely on the list)

      These bathroom bills invite the policing of gender expression. There’s multiple cases of cis women being harassed and chased out bathrooms for being butch, which also serves the purpose of discouraging visibly queer people from being in public. This is also what the conservatives want; think about how much they hate women with dyed hair and undercuts.

      This also puts a giant wrench in feminist activist spaces, because you have a bunch of people who’s have redefined “women’s rights” and “feminism” to be inherently in opposition to trans people. There are “feminists” posting Matt Walsh. I have a strong suspicion that at least some of this is paid trolling - that the success of early 2010s internet feminism (#metoo) threatened some powerful people.

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    KS misspelled my brother’s name on his birth certificate. These people are idiots.

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    The thing I always wonder when I hear about these bills is whether cis women would be more uncomfortable with noticeably MtF individuals in their bathroom, or with passing FtM individuals in their bathroom. My money’s on the latter.

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      Buck Angel enters the bathroom the law requires him to use.

      Conservative CIS women who supported the bathroom bill:

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        Buck Angel is a loser and a jerk. Like, Can we pick a better example than a guy whose claim to fame is porn and hating non-binary people? I could give you 5 reasons he sucks, and someone else could jump in to give you five more.

        Jamison Green is a personal hero of mine, and a much better representation of the community.

        This is the guy the Right wants in bathrooms.

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          100%, I’m in no way making a value statement about the kind of man Buck Angel is.

          I just use him as an example because of his extremely masculine appearance, not because of anything to do with who he is as a person.

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            It’s just kind of annoying that he is probably the most famous trans man, that he’s the example that always gets brought up in this conversation, but that he literally supports bathroom bans for non-op trans women.

            Imagine if the only trans women that people knew about was Blair White but a porn star.

            I feel like I can speak ex cathedra for all trans men in asking allies to use men like Jamison Green instead. He’s the kind of man that represents the best of us, and I think all men would benefit from reading him.

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      It’s a terrible catch-22 for trans people. Either you use the restroom that conforms to your apparent gender and risk being charged with a crime, or you use the restroom that conforms to your birth gender and risk being harassed or assaulted by others. Honestly, these laws are just an attempt to punish trans people for existing in a public space.

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        They certainly aren’t laws that solve any problem, so we have to assume it’s control, harassment, or punishment. Or all of the above.

        If they really cared they simply would change the code to one person per private space, by that a full washroom, or a private stall.

        The bathrooms in my kids school have private locking stalls floor to cieling and a common washroom area that is fully open to the hallway. All the kids feel safe and comfortable. Adults do to. The common space is safe, the private space is safe.

        But these people in Kansas aren’t interested in making anyone safe or comfortable. Or even make an effort to do something worthwhile.

        They want to make people miserable.

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      The answer the UK settled on was to ban trans men from essentially all single sex public restrooms.

      These kind of laws really exist to be a covert way of banning trans existence in public; there have been trans women in the UK who have sued because they have essentially no ability to use changing rooms or piss at work, because the law doesn’t require employers to provide single stall/all gender restrooms.

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      In the tape released by the campaign of Brad Carson, the Democratic candidate, Coburn says a campaign worker from Coalgate told him that “lesbianism is so rampant in some of the schools in southeast Oklahoma that they’ll only let one girl go to the bathroom. Now think about it. Think about that issue. How is it that that’s happened to us?”

      Fox News link / Archived alternative](https://archive.ph/P2Lri)

      The propaganda is evergreen. There was a commercial I remember ages ago (I think Mormon funded(?)) that was just a creepy guy walking into the bathroom after a little girl in opposition to like gay marriage.

      Pretty sure it was an argument against the ERA even.

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    When you’re actively protecting people’s and murdering citizens none of this matters

    Republicans of any kind are ineffectual forgettable human sandbags in the way of common sense and living well