• samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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    18 hours ago

    I’ve thought about the isekai genre (ending up in another world) a lot lately and how a big part is usually the characters trying to find a way home. I wondered what percentage of people would actually want that nowadays. I suspect it’s considerably lower than it used to be.

    “As for you, young lady, you want to go home, right?”

    “No, not anymore. I want to stay here and become the new wicked witch.”

    “Nonsense! Now click your big honking boots together three times and wish to go home to Kansas to live in poverty with your dirt-farming, teetotaling aunt and uncle!”

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      Old isekai had the MC want to go home. Modern isekai has the MC wanting to start over and stay in their new world. You can chart the change based on how dissolutioned young adults are about the Japanese Dream of stable employment and raising a family.

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      There’s a big trend in recent isekai to just outright kill the character at the beginning. So, you’re either reincarnated into another world or your soul is snatched upon death and body recreated in the other world as an explanation for why the character isn’t spending their whole time just trying to get back, but I do think that would be an interesting angle to explore.

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        12 hours ago

        Fabiniku is more along these lines. With the additional twist of the protag’s boon being his best friend getting dragged in with him to help him out, so there’s some exploration of why one or both would want to go back home.

        …and genderbending.

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        I can only think of two Isekais where the whole plot is the main character trying to get home, and the anime fans are gonna hate which two things those are.

        A Kid in King Arthur’s Court and Farscape.

        3 if Quantum Leap could be counted as an isekai.

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          12 hours ago

          The Wizard of Oz, which Futurama is parodying, definitely counts! Yes, Dorothy wants to help the randos she meets, but the whole reason she’s going to the Emerald City in the first place is to try to get home to live in poverty with her dirt-farming, teetotaling aunt and uncle.

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            Fucking love that show… its a shame he missed his home world because his mother just had the gate fixed but also I don’t actually think it was the correct one

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          12 hours ago

          Quantum leap is an Isekai. Getting home is a mainstay of the “Summoned Hero” genre of isekai.

          Anime examples include:

          The Rising of the Shield Hero

          My Status as the Assassin Obviously Exceeds the Hero’s

          My Instant Death Ability Is So Overpowered, No One In This Other World Stands A Chance Against Me!

          Arifureta: From Commonplace to World’s Strongest

          Non anime example: Black Knight

          • I wasn’t sure because the only reason I even say A Kid in King Arthur’s court counts even though he just goes back in time is because he goes so far back in time, nothing he knew about the world he knows really applies making him effectively in another world. Sam never goes back too far, but, then again, wasn’t he also from the far future? 🤔

            Also: Black Knight is basically A Kid in King Arthur’s Court which I just lump together. lol

    • Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I’m not sure what you mean, I don’t think I’ve seen a single isekai protag try to go back to Earth unless you count the “trapped in VR” ones.

      I’m always a little disappointed by how quickly the regular world becomes irrelevant in the story. The intrigue is from how a person from a modern nonmagical culture interacts with a medieval magical culture.

      But from the isekais I’ve seen, I’d say you could replace half of them with a person with amnesia and nothing would change.

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      Campfire Cooking is my favorite one of the newer crop of these.

      His super power is basically Amazon Grocery. He immediately hides that fact from everyone, tells the people that summoned him he’s useless, and leaves the country to live “off grid”.

      And all that before he even knows how that world works. I’m not even sure he knew he could do other kinds of magic at that point. Natural instinct to GTFO society / authority was something I could identify with

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      12 hours ago

      Even the Wish-Fulfillment Isekai are pretty gritty for everyone who isn’t the MC, though, so in that situation most people would probably learn to suck a john, find a way home, or die.

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      The fantastic book series Magic Kingdom For Sale is basically about this. I started reading what I assumed would be a lighthearted comedy and it literally opens with our main character lost in alcoholic depression because of an awful tragedy. The fantasy land he’s sent to is hostile, but it provides him enough hope to fight for a better world there.

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        17 hours ago

        It’s bad when the idea of dealing with a fantasy Dark Lord is more appealing than real life. At least it’s clear who the good and bad guys are.

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          I think much of the appeal of these stories, and post-apocalyptic ones, is that they put you in front of problems that are easier to understand and deal with. Needing to find food is a simple concept, even if it can be a difficult task, it’s something we have evolved to deal with.

          Emails and taxes, not so much.

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          Well, it’s pretty clear in 2026 normie world too (who the bad guys are). People just aren’t heroes in real life, and it’s too hard to kill the top villains.

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        I fucking love that series, one of my favorites of all time. The final (currently) book focused on the child was not my favorite - I hope there will be another book focused on Ben again.

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      I’m aware of a few early isekai works from like the 80’s to 90’s (Dunbine, Elf Hunter, and quite a few western Choose Your Own Adventure books and pulp novels fall into this category). It seems to be that as a trend, the premise is that the main character wants to get back to the “real” world and that usually drives the main plot.

      Then theres a big trend of Isekai light novels (and related anime etc) in the later 2000’s to today. These almost exclusively seem to feature characters who just want to live a life in their new fantasy world. Literal escapism, even. Konosuba is notable for being very popular, maybe being around the start of this trend, and the main character is given a task to complete and be returned to the real world, but he just ignores it.

      I guess we can speculate on whether this means people got more miserable in the intervening time.

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      This was me the whole time playing Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

      Every character except the main character is MUCH better off in the fantasy realm - the main character’s brother is literally crippled and sick in the real world and healthy and robust in the fantasy realm, and the main character still wants to go back to the “real” world. Didn’t identify with him at all.

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        An ancient 4chan demotivator summarized FFTA as “your life sucks shit and I’m dragging you back to it.” You’d think it was fundamentally impossible to have a good story where the message is, escapism is bad, mmkay? But it would be so easy to say Ivalice only exists as a shared hallucination, with the locals they’ve befriended gradually revealed as shallow imitations of people. Or: say it’s a real place which these kids can visit any time… y’know… like players do. Put some ludonarrative assonance on the idea there’s a crapsack reality you do need to take care of, to continue enjoying this fantasy.

        On the other hand, as an actual game, Penny Arcade gave it the “Oh shit, is it 3AM?” award.

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      This trope has been explored, sure enough.

      Recently, I recall the comics DIE, although I didn’t finish it yet. And also the TV show The Magicians. In both cases one of the crew stays to be a king while everybody else goes home. And time runs at different rates on either sides. And then they meet again. Hijinks ensue.