• TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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      1 day ago

      Because they didn’t just stick to oppressing the citizens of their country, they invaded a country that had allies and they caused a war which they lost.

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      22 hours ago

      They were opposed by a coalition of other countries led by an emerging super power who cooked their asses in a world war ending in nukes.

      Oh. Oh no.

    • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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      11 hours ago

      Well, the evil red fash tankies you hate so much made enormous sacrifices and contributions in order to bring them down.

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        11 hours ago

        So did the other allies, do you suddenly like capitalist countries?

        Oh and let’s not ignore the Soviets allying with Nazi Germany to annex Poland. If the Nazi’s never declared on them, would the Soviets have attacked them first?

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          11 hours ago

          So did the other allies, do you suddenly like capitalist countries?

          I like them when they’re killing Nazis, yes.

          Oh and let’s not ignore the Soviets allying with Nazi Germany to annex Poland.

          Oh and let’s not ignore Britain and France allying with Nazi Germany to give them the Sudetanland.

          If the Nazi’s never declared on them, would the Soviets have attacked them first?

          If the Nazis had never declared on the Allies, would they have attacked them first? Is there a point to this counterfactual?

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            11 hours ago

            Cool, I don’t like capitalist states even when they’re a broken clock sometimes.

            Likewise I don’t like Britain and France, so I’m happy not to ignore them, nor do I think they would have invaded to stop the genocide if not for the invasion of Poland.

            You seem to be deflecting and arguing against a liberal instead of an anarchist. Better luck next time.

            • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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              11 hours ago

              At this point I’m genuinely confused why you asked the question in the first place. What answer were you looking for? Because last I checked the Allies, who collectively stopped the fascists, were an alliance between state entities. Specifically, between capitalist states and the USSR. But you “don’t like” either of those, even when they’re fighting the Nazis!

              Why would you ask a rhetorical question to lead people to an answer you disagree with? Christ, the brainworms are beyond my ability to detangle.

              • Deceptichum@quokk.au
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                10 hours ago

                Your little gotcha’s didn’t land, so now you’re going back to square one?

                I was asking because the answer was the use of force - not waiting until the mid-terms to vote in what will most likely be the most rigged election in US history. A answer I feel most people understood, but of course you had to try and shoehorn in ‘the soviets were great’ which isn’t surprising from you lot.

                Either way I’m done replying now, you can simp for genocidal authoritarians to someone else.

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                  10 hours ago

                  If the use of force alone was enough, the Nazis never would’ve come to power. There were plenty of people willing to face them in the streets and match their violence, far more than there are in the US today.

                  But it’s obvious that you just want to exchange snipes and have zero interest in actually learning anything from history, so you will continue to repeat the mistakes of the past. Even when the fascists are at your doorstep, you’ll still be punching left, and demanding everyone follow incoherent and dysfunctional ideas because you can’t be assed to read theory, study history, or engage with anyone beyond snipes and memes.