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WiredBrain@lemmy.ca to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 days ago

[Ed Sheeran] Calling Gaza “the most complex political issue on the planet” is pro-genocide propaganda – CE Media

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[Ed Sheeran] Calling Gaza “the most complex political issue on the planet” is pro-genocide propaganda – CE Media

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WiredBrain@lemmy.ca to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 days ago
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Calling Gaza “the most complex political issue on the planet” is pro-genocide propaganda
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When Ed Sheeran played the victim card after the Macklemore fallout, he did what all Israel appeasers do: he pretended genocide is too complicated to understand.
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  • Enkrod@feddit.org
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    Solving the conflict between a poor and powerless Palestine and the nuclear power of Israel IS one of the most complex political issues. Not only, but also because of the power-imbalance and generational hate on both sides.

    The genocide in Gaza is decidedly NOT complex though. Yes it is a part of that entire thing, but the fact that the IDF is committing crimes against humanity is as simple as can be.

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    I always try to give people the benefit of doubt. But now he’s said too much for that to apply.

    The entirety of Palestine, Gaza, and Israel is complex. Though, it has to be said, part of that is because Israel has done everything in their power to keep it “complex”. When serious progress was being made in the early years of their nation. Their response was to assassinate the mediator. Yes. Really. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte (Oh I mean… It was totally these extremists, a rebel group, and in no way was Israel involved, they investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing!)

    The Israeli genocide in Gaza however. Is not very complex. It’s quite simple. It’s a genocide. And they need to be held accountable. Though I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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    I think this guy is an entertainment puffball who is not cut out to have sophisticated opinions on anything or any opinions about sophisticated matters, but he is fast becoming a textbook case on how that doesn’t matter because you can’t simply throw up your hands at genocide and say “I’m not a political person.”

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    Person A: You don’t love me anymore?

    Person B: It is complicated.

    Person A: really!?

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    “genocide bad” is not complex at all, actually.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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      Is it genocide though?

      Yes

      UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory concludes Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip

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    Also : He tried playing the victim for a bit.

  • Soleos@lemmy.world
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    World War II was also the most geopolitically complex issue on the planet.

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    The only thing making it complex is that Jews were the victims of a genocide too. Nothing more to it than humans not learning from history.

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    Why is anyone surprised?

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    It’s not that complex Ed, just look at Elon Musk and Steve Bannon. They know how to express exactly what they mean.

    Almost sounds like you have reservations about being a spineless pos.

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    So tired to hear about this hobbit it’s not even funny.

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    At least he didn’t support this guy:

    https://sh.itjust.works/post/55486542

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    When you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.

    -Geddy Lee, Neil Peart, and Alex Lifeson

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      when it’s genocide vs genocide the only winner is genocide

      genocide

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      You should change the attribution to Rush. Neil was the lyricist of the group.

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      If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor

      -Desmond Tutu

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      It’s not a matter of choice, either you have morals or you don’t. He doesn’t.

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        You have morals or you have money. It’s a binary thing really.

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          Does that make Keanu Reeves nonbinary?

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            An exception perhaps.

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            I’d say so, but even he is fallible - i remember him supporting some medical con-man (out of conviction, not out of greed) a few years back? Can’t remember details, but he caught online flak for it - deservedly

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      Yes! It’s so clear with issues like this one, too.

      1. There is a genocide
      2. Should you help in any way?

      Those who answer “not sure” are absolutely the same as those who say “no”. History doesn’t remember future intentions, only actions that take place.

      People who can’t even VOICE that genocide is wrong are fucking monsters.

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    Keep digging that hole, Ed.

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      • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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        👨‍🍳🤌🫴

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    Isn’t Netanyahu wanted for genocide?

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      Well, it’s complex

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      Only by like 5-6 countries.

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        Only the countries with balls

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        Only the countries with a moral compass

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        Far more are ICC signatories, most of the world in fact.

        However, some have cowardly said they will not arrest Netanyahu because Israel is not an ICC signatory.

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        Well, since it’s not a consensus, does it count?

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      No, he’s wanted for accusation of “the war crimes of starvation as a method of warfare and of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts from at least 8 October 2023 until at least 20 May 2024.”

      https://www.icc-cpi.int/defendant/netanyahu

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        OK so genocide with extra steps?

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          No.

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            Genocide: The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group. You said they willfully targeted civilians. That fits the definition of genocide. Targeting the civilian population to kill on a large scale. Thats what they’re doing in Gaza. They even made israeli encampments and new settlements. Wiping them off slowly and replacing them with Israelis: Genocide. I know you’re a zionist. Dont pretend hitler didnt go jew for the fourth reich.

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