• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
    2·
    6 hours ago

    Christianity is problematic, and you shouldn’t be a believer. The “turn the other cheek” doesn’t apply to believers, but to slaves.

    There, I cancelled christianity.

  • Akasazh@lemmy.worldEnglish
    31·
    7 hours ago

    I mean I love this comparison, but it’s wrong.

    Trump demonstratively spent time in the St Peter in Rome taking to Zelensky and attending the inauguration.

    I don’t believe this comparison is created to celebrate his stamina.

  • QueenHawlSera@piefed.socialEnglish
    25·
    16 hours ago

    I wish Christians were persecuted anywhere near the extent they claim to be.

    It truly bothers me that our response to God believers is “We have to respect them” and our response to trans people is “They are delusional!”

    When it should be the other way around. After all Transpeople and gender dysphoria are real and measurable. God is neither.

    I’m tired of these people who worship deities tell me there’s no such thing as trans. That I am not a woman because “God doesn’t make mistakes.”

    Newsflash - If God was real the existence of birth defects proves he does make mistakes.

    If masculinity is God’s will so is bad eyesight. Burn your satanic glasses.

    • RidderSport@feddit.org
      5·
      7 hours ago

      *American christians. I’ve yet to hear any European christians claim they’re persecuted. In fact quite a lot of the more liberal christians in Western Europe are very much pro LGBTQ+ and outspoke against right-wing-populism. A larger church in the German state of Saxony-Anhalt just organized a concert against the AfD.

  • TheBloodFarts@lemmy.ca
    12·
    17 hours ago

    Has there been a single recent example of Christians being persecuted in the US ? Wtf are these people on about

    • derfunkatron@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      17 hours ago

      Certain strains of Christianity in the US are really apocalypse cults. Somewhere in the story there’s something about being persecuted and being threatened with death unless you renounce Christ.

      They need to be persecuted because it reinforces the idea that they are living in the end times and therefore closer to rapture or whatever.

      Edit: persecution is also a key part of Christianity’s origin story (Peter being crucified for his belief, Christians being fed to the lions in Rome, etc.).

      • skisnow@lemmy.caEnglish
        3·
        5 hours ago

        It’s in the Beatitudes, Matthew 5:10-12, blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

        Basically sets up this whole thing where people think they can trick God into letting them into Heaven by bullshitting Him about how persecuted they are.

      • irish_link@lemmy.world
        3·
        16 hours ago

        This is also critical for those who are treating the earth like it doesn’t matter. Rapture is coming so it doesn’t matter. Although they always fail to remember the quote, a rich man getting into heaven is as likely as a camel going through the eye of a needle. I am paraphrasing

      • QueenHawlSera@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        16 hours ago

        Christians actually oppose going to college because the end times will be here “any day now” so dedicating yourself to anything but praising Jebus is a waste of time.

  • w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
    6·
    15 hours ago

    I recently started reading Separation of Church and Hate by John Fugelsang. I highly recommend it, especially if you aren’t religious. I saw the author on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and he convinced me to read it.

    The book is about why Christian Nationalists are wrong. They’ve stolen Christianity from true Christians.

    It gives you the tools and knowledge to debate those people by analyzing verse from the Bible more closely with the context to the era.

    Some things you might not know that I learned:

    • Jesus was a Palestinian.

    • Paul never met Jesus. His books of the bible were actually letters he wrote to someone else about the scripture. His words about the scripture weren’t meant to be applied to his own letters.

    • The Bible often contradicts itself. Sometimes, in the same book. Paul, for example, wrote that women should be submissive and never speak, but then he had a female deacon.

    • QueenHawlSera@piefed.socialEnglish
      5·
      16 hours ago

      I wish Christians got their wish.

      I want America to become a godless atheisitc wasteland that considers queerness a virtue and Believing in God to be mental illness.

      I want it forbidden to say Christmas or to pray in public. I want churches constantly raided by the cops and shut down for preying on children.

      I want the Bible taken from all public libraries and replaced with the Quran.

      Why? Because Christians want it, so badly, and I figure that if they finally get their wet dream they can cum and stop being my problem.

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
      501·
      1 day ago

      If you ask them to persecute other people less, they’ll endlessly screech about being persecuted.

      • RedAggroBest@lemmy.world
        6·
        20 hours ago

        Yea, that’s how they get the ol’ two-fer. They persecute YOU until theyre about to cum you resist, THEN they edge themselves screech about how you’re persecuting them by resisting

  • Stolas@lemmy.ca
    10·
    20 hours ago

    Accurate.

    I don’t understand how there are so many Christians these days. It feels like it’s has a resurgence recently.

    • affenlehrer@feddit.org
      101·
      20 hours ago

      You mean people who call themselves Christian or people who follow the examples of Jesus?

      I’m asking because I’ve got the impression that many of those right wing nationalists do pretty much the exact opposite of what Jesus preaches.

      • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
        6·
        19 hours ago

        Most of these people think that going to church makes you Christian. In the same way that standing in my garage makes me a car.

        It’s actually just tribalism.

      • Stolas@lemmy.ca
        6·
        20 hours ago

        Both, but I’m thinking more so of the average person. I’ve been seeing more displays of it everywhere from online socials to irl. Suddenly there’s more cars with Christian nonsense on them or you check profiles in what was a very left leaning space only to see bibe verses.

      • Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.worldEnglish
        44·
        19 hours ago

        Jesus was fine with torturing and murdering all sorts of people.

        You do know He promised to come back and murder everybody, right? While the Christians watch from Heaven, smiling.

          • Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.worldEnglish
            52·
            17 hours ago

            Those are the people “left behind”. After all the Christians are safe up in Heaven, Jesus comes down to Earth with His Holy Army of legions of Angels. They will murder all of the non-Christians, and the lake of blood will be miles wide and “as deep as a horse’s bridle”. (Revelation describes the Apocalypse in great detail).

            Then the murdered non-Christians will burn in Hell for all time (with all of the other non-Christians from the history of the Earth, many billions of people). The vast majority of humanity to ever exist will experience eternal torture.

            Christians can watch their torture from Heaven, and listen to their torment, too, and talk to them as they are tormented. They can even smell them… God loves the smell of burning flesh like incense (that’s why there were animal sacrifices before Jesus).

            Over the centuries, Christians have focused on just a few words from Jesus, especially when proselyting and for “public relations”. The vast majority of people have no idea of the awful truth in the Bible. Many Christians don’t even read it. I have 12 years of Bible studies from Catholic, Assembly of God, and Baptist schooling. Everything I have said has accompanying scripture.

              • Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.worldEnglish
                11·
                14 hours ago

                … and the Middle East, too, including Israel (Jew) and the surrounding nations (Muslim)

                (all of these faiths are Abrahamic with much of the same core belief system. They all think that they are the ‘Chosen People’, but there can be only one Chosen People, many of them can’t abide “the other”, and want them all to die)

      • Stolas@lemmy.ca
        1·
        15 hours ago

        It might have. A lot of these people I’m seeing picking it up are women.

  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
    14·
    22 hours ago

    Cool, does she stand for my equally firm belief of not being Christian? What about my rights as a pagan? Because I for one believe we should all keep our religions out of the government

  • Alexfire@lemmy.world
    3·
    16 hours ago

    What’s so unhealthy is that none of it is a rock, but the very sand they warn about, how convenient, projection been going on a long time! Same with all the other supernatural systems that preceded it by thousands of years and that came after. It’s a compilation of what worked best for men in power to keep it, and supernatural stories controlled people better than force alone.

    Other tricks they use to keep people hooked, indoctrinate from birth, offer belonging*, simplify thinking with phrases to repeat, must say/think the right words for alleged, but no proof of later reward, fear/reward cycle, cortisol, dopamine, oxytocin, guilt/shame/blame and they are the only one that can fix it, how convenient! It’s been used for so long most think it’s good to not have healthy skepticism and encourage curiosity and growth, transcend the ego control. Real truth sets us free from the low-level thinking and high-control and associated unhealthy ways. Big claims require big proof as Sagan said. We are waves of one ocean made of stardust, the cosmos observing itself, for this short time, nothing after, nothing to balance the ledger of suffering now.

    *conditional