• shads@leminal.space
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    Would be amusing to see the look on her face if a Muslim sat next to her on a plane and started preaching. Or a Hindu. Or a Christian from a different sect.

    All these special snowflakes need to fuck right off and let the rational people live their lives in peace.

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        And verily he said unto the assembled flock: “I use Arch by the way!” and there was much rolling of eyes and snorts of derision from the unbelievers.

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        “Ed is the standard text editor.”

        Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.

        ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!

        When I use an editor, I don’t want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!! Not a “viitor”. Not a “emacsitor”. Those aren’t even WORDS!!! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!

        TEXT EDITOR.

        When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their “edlin” on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs? Surely you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The standard.

        Ed is for those who can remember what they are working on. If you are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs, you should not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION. THE SO-CALLED “VISUAL” EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!

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        I had some Debian pamphlets printed out for when I had a bunch of proselytizers coming by. Some would say we can’t take that others would just be like uhhhh thank you. Either way it busted ended up with two pamphlets in the recycle bucket.

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        To join the Church of Emacs, you need only pronounce the Confession of the Faith:

        There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.

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        Nah, Sabaton at full volume. The Last Stand, specifically. No religious based complain about that one probably ;)

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      Long while back I remember reading a news article about a middle eastern dude who was kicked off a plane because the passengers next to him saw him writing something scary looking.

      He was a math researcher.

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        Well… I mean… Who knows what sort of crazy demon he was trying to summon with that spell he was writing?

        I’m from Australia, that would scare and confuse a number of the locals here too. We are also pretty damn racist.

        Just nowhere near as religious.

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      No hate to my Muslim brothers and sisters, but under absolutely no circumstances would I recommend preaching Islam on an airplane…

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        I hear what you are saying, but that’s a matter of perspective. I tend to be no more or less scared of Muslims than I am Christians. Talk to a lot of people in South East Asian and they can tell you some tales that don’t make mainstream news about Buddhists. I’m sure there’s a bunch of lore out there covering Hindus as well.

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          Oh 100%, there are fanatics in literally any organized groups of human beings. That said, my previous comment was but a shallow poke at the fact that Americans are probably going to assume anyone preaching Islam on their plane is a terrorist.

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            Yeah I know. Sorry to have stepped on your… Joke isn’t the right word… Social commentary?

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      It’s always the demons when people disagree. Spiritual warfare. All that cliche crap. She had the freedom to speak, but not the freedom from consequences. Nobody wants to be stuck in a plane with a religious extremist if any kind.

      So yeah I agree 100% I have nothing but hatred for these kinds of people

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    She knows what she’s doing. This is the desired outcome. It’s not about preaching the gospel. It’s about supporting the narrative that Christians are persecuted, even if you have to deliberately generate the appearance of persecution through ridiculous behavior.

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      The basic door to door proselyting strategy (which has a 0% success rate) to make sure they don’t leave the cult, then…

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        Yes. It reinforces the idea that the world is corrupt, fallen, that it won’t accept them. That only the cult will accept them. It reinforces the separation of cult and world, and makes cult the only attainable form of community.

        Community is the cult’s greatest weapon. Gangs, religions, the manosphere, neo-Nazi… so many groups work by finding the isolated and disempowered, offering them a community that will adopt them (conditionally). Isolated people swallow the conditions readily in order to have a community, even an unhealthy one. Humans are social creatures.

        Getting your members to do behaviours you know will see them rejected (like door-knocking) reinforces the indoctrination that only your cult can offer community. Even if they have doubts or discomfort, they won’t leave.

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        In my wayward youth I was heavily into church and went to a conference where you went to classes about evangelising and apologetics (arguing your beliefs) and then approaching people out in public to talk about Jesus. The success rate is low but it’s not zero.

        Some of my strongest convictions against Christianity come from learning they told flat out lies in the apologetics classes and used lots of logical fallicies.

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          When I read your post I heard Stewie Griffin in my head say “Flat out lies and logical fallacies? Well you don’t say!”

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      I think a good way to handle these might be to get everyone on the plane to start chanting “troll” in unison at her. By doing so:

      • You directly call out the disruptive and bad-faith behavior, rather than attacking them based on their message.
      • You make it so they have no useful footage for their socials. Post a video of one person confronting you? Easy to claim victimhood based on religion. Post a video of a whole plane calling you a troll? You look like the bad guy.
      • You make it a group effort that people can participate in with little risk or effort. It takes much less courage to join a chant of, “troll! troll! troll!” than it does to personally and individually call them out. Plus, chants are just fun.
      • You completely drown them out. Let her bitch all she wants. No one will hear her over a hundred people shouting “troll” in unison.
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        I agree with all but point 2. She’d salivate at having an entire plane “persecuting” her. Looking like the victimized minority in a society against you is the fiction that these morons are trying to portray. They want to feel like that last few good Christians in a world turned against them while ignoring that the vast majority of our society believe more or less the same shit as them or at the very least, treat Christianity as the default in the US culturally.

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    You want to know why people feel unsafe with a religious zealot on board an airplane? It’s because in 2001 religious zealots hijacked three planes and murdered thousands of people and terrorize the entire nation.

    Fuck religion

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      People don’t call them Y’all qaeda for nothing. US Christians want what the theocratic system of Islam promises.

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        It’s no wonder, with that kind of intense training and discipling, that those young people are ready to kill themselves for the cause of Islam. I wanna see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I wanna see them as radically laying down their lives for the Gospel as they are over in Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places, you know, because we have… excuse me, but we have the truth!

        Becky Fisher, “Jesus Camp”

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      Four planes. Two hit the twin towers, one hit the pentagon, and another crashed into a field in Pennsylvania, presumably on the way to the Whitehouse.

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      Fuck religion

      Beware not to conflate the thousand, likely million, different religions and belief systems that existed and exist worldwide for Abrahamic religions.

      Have you ever saw some Luciferian practitioner going door-to-door preaching the words of the Lightbringer?
      Have you ever saw Wiccan priestesses hijacking an airplane to try and convert people to Goddess Hekate?
      Have you ever saw some Umbanda’s Mãe de Santo yelling Laroyê Exu out loud?
      Maybe some Thelemite trying to make people to read Liber Al Vel Legis, or some Hermetist trying to shove The Kybalion onto people’s throats?
      Me neither.

      Similar thing goes with my Lilith-centered belief. My religious practices are mostly between me and Her, and whenever I do something public (devotional art, carving of sigils/seals, etc), it’s never directed at “converting others”.

      So, again, beware not to conflate “religion” with the Abrahamic ones. Or you risk becoming the very kind of “religious zealot” you swore to be against.

      !crazyfuckingvideos@lemmy.world

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        Every acceptance of superstition lays the groundwork for a belief in the supernatural. Every Homeopathy-Karen, every Wicca-Hippie, while peaceful and harmless in and of themselves provides the fertile ground on which a bigger misconception of reality can grow.

        Should you be able to have your own beliefs and worship as you please as long as you don’t intrude on the rights of others?

        Absolutely

        But should society consider every expression of unfounded belief a failure of education in critical thinking? Yes.

        Supernatural thinking and superstition are fundamentally at odds with a congruent model of reality, they are infectious memes and can fester into extremism if left unchecked. Not necessarily in the individual but absolutely on a societal scale.

        The Wiccan priestess, the Luciferian practitioner, the Thelemite are not the Hijackers but they absolutely are the grains of sand that in their totality create the wandering dunes that ever so slowly swallow civilizations. Do we say “fuck that grain of sand in particular”? No, but nonetheless we fight the dunes.

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        Do not confuse spiritual belief with religion. Religion by its very definition is fanaticism.

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      yeah, i noticed the darvo. she’s trying to manipulate and confuse everyone around her.

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    Talking about persecution. Shes never been persecuted a day in her life I gaurentee.

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    Help! Help! I’m being oppressed!

    Come and see the violence inherent in the system!

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      to be fair to that scene, the scene holds more truth than this dumb lady ever could. don’t besmirch is anarcho-syndicalists like that. 😂

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      I can’t tell for sure but she looks somewhat attractive. I guarantee she thinks she’s attractive. And people who think they’re attractive don’t vote. They think they live in a different world and aren’t effected by such matters.

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              I don’t think feeling pretty is the same as being vain, though.

              Thank you for voting.

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                Thinking you’re pretty is the same thing as thinking you’re attractive, though.

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                I’m vain, and I vote.
                You’ve been called out thoroughly here. Accept it. You’re wrong.
                As well as being vain, I also say stupid shit on the internet. I find it’s a better practice to laugh and shrug it off when my bullshit goes awry.

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                  Called out? OK, now I am definitely laughing and shrugging it off. Thanks for that.

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            I’m telling you that you have a weird hangup, probably rooted in jealousy. There’s no reason for anyone to think civic engagement is in any way coupled with “vanity”.

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              It’s not a hangup, just an observation. You don’t have to agree, and I’m not saying it’s the fucking law that vain people can’t vote.

              But they don’t. If they can’t take a selfie in the voting booth then it ain’t gonna happen buddy.

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                This is a classic hangup. There’s literally no possible way you could know this, but you’re certain of it. Not only that, but you brought it up when it had nothing to do with anything. Kinda a sign you’re fixated on the idea.

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                  Eh. I’m just interested in human psychology, so while you think it had “nothing to do with anything” to you, it did have meaning to me. And it’s preposterous to think there’s no way to know how human psychology is reflected at the ballot box.

                  I mean I only made an observation, but it’s not like it has no basis in reality. I just think it makes intuitive sense to conclude that individuals who are highly self-absorbed wouldn’t necessarily care about a collective, relatively anonymous civic duty like voting. Vain people probably love the *stage *of politics, but they are far less interested in the *chore *of voting.

                  So I’m not saying vain people AS A WHOLE skip elections. In fact I think the opposite there, that they are likely to be much more vocal in the political sphere. Narcissistic political participation is largely driven by a desire for a captive audience and public recognition. Activities like protesting, posting on social media, or aggressively debating are highly visible. In contrast, the act of voting in a democratic election is intentionally anonymous. An election ballot offers no audience, no applause, and no opportunity to publicly demonstrate superiority.

                  So when you isolate the physical, logistical act of **voting **from the rest of the political sphere, the behavior of highly vain or narcissistic individuals trends toward disinterest in the process. Vain individuals often possess a grandiose sense of self-importance and believe their direct intervention is required to fix things. The realization that their single vote carries the exact same mathematical weight as millions of other voters can feel insulting to their sense of authority.

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      There is only one river, there is only one sea…

      Warning: Strings “river” and “sea” found in the same post. User has been banned for antisemitism.

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    These types of Christians always immediately jump into some persecution complex once they get some push back. Like it’s a sign of the end timds. Real cult behaviour

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      Yeah that’s why they do this shit. They are expecting push back so they can scream that they are being discriminate and tell their congregation that the world is against them. It’s all about closing in the group away from the outside world so they can manipulate them even further. It’s all about power over people. Either to extract more money, to stroke their egos, gain political power or to be able to fuck kids.

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    It wasn’t the message that made people uncomfortable, it was the delusional self-righteous weirdo, who wasn’t going to shut up for the next few hours, preaching at people stuck in a tin can with her. A psycho like her, who thinks death is her big beginning, is capable of anything.

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      Idk, preaching that you’re going to hell if you don’t accept Jesus isn’t particularly nice to hear

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      All true, but the message itself is also quite uncomfortable, really, I don’t need to hear that in an airplane or on the street, for that matter.