@Meow-Misfit cant find the first one and the second one is not upto date #[1](https://trinidad.social/siteinfo) shows hubzilla v8.2, latest is 10.6.1
you might want to choose from a hub that runs latest hubzilla and is open to public from here #[2](https://hubzilla.fediverse.observer/list), #[3](https://hubzilla.org/pubsites)




+1 for mailcow, i’ve been running my mailserver for over 2 years now, very efficient, no hassle setup.