You fool, marx clearly explained that the dishwasher, as well as the potable water and cleaning product, is imbued with the fossilised human labour power mobilised during its production. This fossil labour power is then passed on to the crockery (where it joins the labour power already embodied there during production of said implements).

This fundamental misunderstanding of marx shall lead to nothing but revisionism and opportunism.

Failure of the German revolution. Because that has fucked us for 100 years.

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Gotta at least pretend you have some revenue before you IPO I guess

Depending on what “AI use” means, at a certain point it’s probably just cheaper to use humans. Leasing compute isn’t cheap. Data centres aren’t cheap. Chips aren’t cheap.

What’s actually happening every time you see a “we’re sacking humans to use AI” story: the economy is fucked and layoffs would have happened regardless. This is just a fig leaf they can use to hide that fact.

As if they haven’t been fucking around down there for decades

I am literally a communist, the GOP couldn’t manipulate me into anything. I hate basically all American politicians because they are all servants of imperialism and enemies of the working class. Have fun cheering for as they sit and do nothing while people get rounded up into camps (this is literally already happening btw not some hyperbolic future)

Also, “defensive” funding for Israel is still supporting the genocide. Israel’s belief in its own impunity (thanks to things like the iron dome) gives it confidence to commit endless atrocities because they don’t fear proportional consequences.

Also, Israel shouldn’t be defended. Rogue states that commit genocide have no right to exist as far as I’m concerned.

Well she certainly has the qualifications! (Being a sell out and a genocide apologist)

“We deplore violence”

Also me:

I support Taiwanese independence too, for the indigenous Taiwanese colonised by the KMT losers

This guy isn’t dead yet?

But I thought service guaranteed citizenship

No waaaaaay an overhyped tech “product” has led to a crazy bubble?! That never happens!

Only the good die young

Using the US military to oppress people? How novel!

Yeh I’m coming back to this thread late, but I have conflated “bosses” and “owners” (or more technically “capitalists”, or more specifically “people who do nothing except sit back and watch their portfolio increase” lol).

I actually thank you for this comment chain, because it’s reminded me to choose words more specifically and not just assume everyone’s on the same page when it comes to terminology. Of course every workplace needs people to manage it, even if there were no individual owners!

The labour theory of value is completely compatible with everything you just said.

10 workers do 1 value worth of work on product, whether that be manufacturing, shipping, logistics, marketing, so on

boss pays them 0.5 value each

boss sells for 10

boss lives off the stolen 5 value

I am posing this in the most abstract simple way possible. Obviously in an actual supply chain, many bosses would be stealing different amounts of value all throughout the process, as each worker added value to the final product over time.

*2/3 of the tiny portion of the value someone creates that their boss actually lets them keep