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Mobilization like this is good but ultimately fruitless if we do not harness this energy and momentum and channel it into organizations to sustain it.

Join your local DSA chapter folks.

Idk there are some people who deserve what we did at the Hague in the 40s or worse. We were too nice to the fascists last time.

You seem to have made up your mind and are not willing to see other perspectives at all. Live in your anti China bubble all you want there’s clearly no fruit to be had in this conversation as you willfully twist my words in bad faith efforts to justify your pre existing biases.

What a waste of time writing all that up when you clearly only read what I said and none of the articles I spent time to collect to back my statements.

Shameful. The westoid brain really is one full of holes to make them feel better about themselves.

I really question the value in my time of trying to get through to you on a subject where ostensibly you are just spouting hearsay about shit you have read in western news outlets but I will try to give you some stuff to read to support what I am saying you and can decide for yourself what you want to believe.

I’m not trying to deceive anyone

Could have fooled me. You should do research on topics before speaking with any kind of authority on them.

China’s labour protections don’t seem to he any better than those of the US. Wasn’t Alibaba known for demanding employees work 12 hours per day, 6 days per week? The infamous 996 schedule.

This is probably one the areas I need to look more into overall, but working conditions in China are improving year over year. These changes have been slow, but they have also been consistent. Overall the people working in these terrible 996 conditions has been a fraction of the overall worker population - China has 1.5 billion people in their country remember. Not to mention this practice has been widely condemned in China, though again implementation of these laws can be slow which is definitely a valid criticism.

In this capacity I think it is also important to remember that China is a developing country and is very dissimilar from the US in this regard, but the US is probably one of the best analogs in terms of the economic size (at least in my opinion) though China has surpassed us by about $10T at this point. China has a deep history of colonial oppression and exploitation that they are still dealing with and resolving. What is demonstrably provable is that the workers within China are becoming more and more satisfied with their labor conditions year over year AND the Chinese governments is very serious about investigating and resolving labor disputes.

https://annas-archive.pm/md5/04a9e01f4e923fcbc2e184b4a66806ac

https://ash.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/final_policy_brief_7.6.2020.pdf

What I would expect from an actual socialist system is the workers controlling the factories and receiving the profits, the people having a vote in everything, and not having an untouchable ruling class that’s above accountability and can draw more power to themselves.

The numbers show that more and more of the businesses within China are falling under state control - which is quite literally how that would work in a socialist system. The people control the government, the government controls the corporations, therefore the people control the corporations. China is actively working in reducing the control of billionaires with in society as they make public more of the companies.

https://www.piie.com/research/piie-charts/2023/chinas-state-vs-private-company-tracker-which-sector-dominates

There has been a marked drop in the number of billionaires in the country as they have cracked down on exploitation and corruption. This is not indicative of some monumental economic town turn (like I said before China has a $10T larger economy than the US) but rather indicative of them regulating things to bring down prices for their citizens for common goods and services.

https://statisticstimes.com/economy/united-states-vs-china-economy.php

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-lost-36pc-billionaires-three-years-rich-list-hurun-economy-2024-10 (the framing of this article is stupid as fuck)

How well that would work, I don’t know, but a better compromise between that and capitalism would be the Nordic model with strong labour protections and strong unions. In any case, the US is a very poor model to emulate, unless you want cut throat capitalism.

The Nordic model is actively failing because of growing privatization in these countries too. Just because there are regulations on corporations doesn’t mean you are safe from the intrinsic need of private corporations to grow as the parasitic entities they are. It’s definitely better than what we are doing in the US, but the US is also one of the most backwards nations in the world for our level of wealth and power in regards to working tirelessly to fuck over the average person at the behest of like 5 pedophilic billionaires.

https://www.cpreview.org/articles/2023/5/debunking-the-glam-of-the-nordic-model

China does seem to be good at getting competent leaders to the top, though. I’m frequently frustrated by the amateurs and clowns dominating global politics, and often China seems to be the only one capable of a constructive long term vision. It’s undeniable that the mix of democracy with cut throat capitalism and extreme inequality leads to corruption, as we’re seeing in the US and Russia.

I want to make it clear that I am in no way saying that China is perfect or that I agree with everything they are doing. But it is precisely the fact that China IS representative of the will of the people that they enjoy such an overwhelming amount of support from their citizens. The fact that China is engaged in a centrally planned, controlled and regulated form of state run capitalism is the exact reason they are able to construct these long term visions for the future. The communists in charge of the nation have effectively put a harness on the western capitalist need to find the cheapest place to manufacture things and have used that to propel themselves to the forefront of progress. They’ve done this faster than any nation in human history and at a scale that has never been seen before.

https://progressive.international/blueprint/cb7dbaf4-b106-4105-8bde-fdab4bfc2fe8-building-whole-process-peoples-democracy-in-china/en/

But you can’t really say you represent the people if you deny them a vote.

China has an extremely robust democratic process. Just because they also put special emphasis on taking feedback from their citizens at all times doesn’t mean they aren’t also voting. China has several political parties as well, it’s not just the one party that is currently in power.

https://progressive.international/blueprint/cb7dbaf4-b106-4105-8bde-fdab4bfc2fe8-building-whole-process-peoples-democracy-in-china/en/ (yes I linked this twice but it is a really good read)

Please don’t make me regret all the time I spent putting this together.

Payments go out on the 5th of every 4th month of even years. Please standby for your Soros money.

Why are you lying and framing things in this deceptive way?

Yes people in China go to work like everyone else. Yes they have billionaires but that class is shrinking every year as China implements further restrictions on them - its one of the current primary goals of the CPC.

Yes there is inherently exploitation there but they are working very similar hours to many of our citizens. The difference being their government actually provides for them when they work 45+ hours while American citizens are doing that more of then than not working several jobs to still not be able to survive.

Chinese citizens get paid less than US citizens do on average but their cost of living is also drastically lower because of wildly socialized programs of housing, medicine, transportation, etc.

China has a consultative Democratic structure which seeks robust input from its citizens on issues that they need solved and then actually prioritizes them. It’s a massive part of their culture.

Chinese people literally access the western internet all the time with VPNs that the government really doesn’t crack down on or care about.

All of this is really easy information to find in both western and eastern sources. I guess that is kinda hard for you to get to when you are hellbent on spreading easily disprovable propaganda tho.

The citizens in China have some of the highest approval ratings of any country in the world and express that they believe overwhelmingly it is Democratic, though not perfect.

I can’t wait to hear about how you also think they are doing genocide in Tibet and Xingjang next lmao.

What model do YOU think we should be emulating?

Did I say they were socialist? I didn’t.

I could go over the laundry list of reasons why they are not socialist but are very much implementing the exact kinds of policies a socialist would implement. Remember that socialism is a transitionary society organization. China has not yet achieved its minimum program yet in regards to uplifting all of its citizens to a baseline of existence yet. But every day they are getting closer and closer to that reality.

Oh no not the poor feelings of the Nazi Gestapo that willingly signed up to be a domestic occupying force!

I don’t give a fuck if they feel bad every single ICE agent should be hit with a treason charge and dealt with as such. Anyone who committed any provable acts of brutality gets even less sympathy.

No room for fascists in society. It is an ideology that must be eradicated. Use force if you need to.

The world will be a better place with China as a more dominant world power. People are going to get a taste of what real cheap and well made commodities are like without the looming threat of economic warfare. They are gonna get electrified infrastructure with cheap solar panel tech.

Well everyone except the US. We will continue to rot and suffer as our political class insists that if we only deregulate our industries for a few billionaires to jerk each other off over while actively working to collaborate with and bolster the fascist elements of the owner class.

The future is socialist. The US is hellbent on staying in the past and wants to drag everyone down with them.

They will like it until its them who are being brutalized.

Fatally shot. Fucking passive voice as always.

The Democrats engage in this exact same behavior. In fact they often either back the Republican efforts to disenfranchise people or fail to provide any counter narrative to dispel the lies which to me is basically tantamount to support. And then when they offer push back it’s in the stupidest way that ends up lending some kind of credence to the Republican outlook because there is some need to engage in bipartisanship action with insane people in search of a mythical centrist position that will unite us all.

Let’s not pretend this is one side versus the other. Those bought and sold by institutional and corporate power are waging a war on the working class of this nation and much of the rest of the world. It is not left vs right it is owner vs worker.

The reality is our “democratic” institutions are designed to limit the extent to which average people can effectuate change in our society. At every level there are layers of misdirection that are rife with opportunities to dilute the will of the voters and warp it into something that broadly serves the ruling class instead.

People want free healthcare but instead of getting that we end up with some mildly better system that perpetuates the insurance industry being in control of what services a person is allowed to get both through price gouging and denials of service - just as one example. No solutions just Band-Aids to extend the longevity of the powers that be.

Maybe just one more big long sleep

I use Niagara launcher now and while it takes some getting used to and doesn’t have all the customization of Nova but I think I prefer how it streamlines phone interaction a lot of the time. At least for me.

Yep where we did away with kings and landed aristocracy we simply replaced it with seemingly benevolent oligarchs. Same boss new name.

I’ll have to look into the Haudenosaunee Confederacy I’m not familiar with it tbh.

They are afraid their corporate donors will get mad. Who benefits from this chaos? Corporations. Corporations who are handed the new contracts for resource extraction.

Just about our entire government is captured by these corporate interests. Foreign policy to enrich these powers has always been uniparty in this country try as we might to lie and obfuscate that. No one wants to speak out against Trump and lose out on the gravy train they have coming in with their kickbacks from donors.

Don’t get me wrong, they definitely put some good things in the Constitution. I think they are mostly concessions to keep the average person (who this is has changed over the years as we’ve amended things to ostensibly expand voting rights) FEELING like they have a say when the reality is our Constitution contains tons of purposefully anti democratic structures in it.

The Senate, the electoral college, the supreme court, and the independent presidency need to be done away with. We should instead have a unicameral parliamentary system where power comes from the people and is truly representative of their will.

I mean it’s by design right? Our government was made by oligarchs to protect oligarchs from the unwashed masses from the very beginning. We had some progress over the years and most notably after WW2 but this shit has overall been rotted to the core from day one and its only gone into hyperdrive since the 80s in the post Reagan era.

Donald Trump being president is frustratingly not an aberration to this system we live under but rather is the outcome you’d expect from a society that only cares about enriching like 5 pedophile billionaires at the expense of literally every citizen in the country AND at the expense of the freedom and sovereignty of a significant portion of the global south and middle east.

Open the fucking schools dude it’s so insane we don’t have basic civics education in this country

With this attitude I rest easy knowing the only vaginas you are seeing are online