Nothing about criticizing the one person who held the power to stop this all from happening, is an argument in support of the fascists

then fled AND ESCAPED(?)

This is why they don’t publish the statistics on bank robberies.

I just can’t get over how much so Trump is just Trump’s mom in a wig, without a wig.

I think people who spent 18 months berating people, so they could run a guy who was so utterly incoherent he didn’t even know the names of his own policies on stage; I think those people are largely responsible for why fascism has emerged in this country, regardless of how they individually voted. You spent well over a year using your rhetoric in a way that directly contributed to fascism taking over in this country, and hiding behind your identity as a democrat wont change that.

Its not about who you voted for. Its about what you do with your words, here.

You are doing work that directly contributes to fascists winning. So just keep it to your fucking self.

So you don’t disagree that your actions supported Trumps re-election, and you plan on continuing them?

You should focus on poop jokes.

Ok. So you are a cynic for whom no answer is going to be good enough.

Maybe just don’t share any of your perspectives or opinions in the future then, considering the manner of your opinion did direct harm to our ability to stop Trump when we had the chance?

Bidens why we’re here dude.

If instead of insisting Biden be the candidate from 2023-2024, if we could have had a real primary, quite literally ALL of this could have been prevented.

Dont forget eat hot chip

If it gets hot this year I’m going to go off to my partner about how its almost 0% cold.

I’ve watched the narrative completely shift. In 2023, our ratios would be reversed. People really thought they could bully voters into voting for Democrats, instead of demanding that Democrats be better and respond to voters, and that that could win the 2024 election.

I called those voices out then, and had those fights, and got those down votes. And people were watching, and people were listening. This continued into 2024. Same divide, same disagreement about how to approach electoralism, and I was very clear, the entire time, that if the approach outlined here, to apologize for Democrats; “Orange-Man-Bad” as campaign philosophy: that it would hand the election to the Republicans and the government to the fascists.

The apologists bullied us. They berated us. They called us schills. They said we were bots, trolls, russsians, everything.

And then the apologists, they handed the government to fascists. And the viewers, our audience, they saw it all. And the audiences’ minds, they began to shift. They began to recognize the hollowness of this argument of apologists, they began to understand you can’t abuse voters or threaten voters into voting for you; that voting isnt a binary, because non-cooperation is always an option, and that Democrats had led their voters directly to that third option with the way they governed, with the way they campaigned.

And so this performance were in, this dance. Its very important because it highlights the hollowness of what the apologists are doing and saying. If you listen to the apologists, we all know we’ll lose again. Its very clear now, and this discussion is an opportunity to highlight that.

Who is inviting the fash to the group chat?

No one should ever do what an apologist for fascism asks of them.

Supporters of fascism, even if incidental, need to be called out as they are, and we need to focus the conversation on why their activities are harmful. No reader of this thread owes someone, who, even as a biproduct of their actions, supports fascists, just like the example here shows.

For those reading this thread, these apologists for the Democratic party, a party that at this point mostly supports the fascist policies of the Trump administration, are best used as an example, for your own purposes. You owe them nothing. They hold no value in helping us understand where we need to go beyond that.

I think you are a toxic element that creates an interference shield to redirect criticism away from Democrats, the people in power, the people who can make different decisions; your approach to rhetoric shields them from criticism.

And by doing that, you allow them to fall victim to their utterly terrible instincts, with no interest in appealing to the people that would actually show up for them.

You are a paraiah; a persona non-grata. If the Democrats follow your approach, your advocacy, we continue to lose to fascism.

Biden was a genocidal piece of shit, and instead of being able to remove him as a potential candidate in a timely manner, the army of sycophantic apologists, like termites, emerge from the woodwork to create this wall of interference.

Literally, the Democrats did everything they could to prevent themselves from winning the election in 2024, and it was a direct consequence of the wall of apologists, yourself included, shielding them from the necessary criticism to show them how they needed to do things differently.

You are not an opponent of fascism: you are the mechanism by which it takes hold.

Stop throwing elections to fascists. We told you this last time and you did it anyways.

Oh I didn’t bow out. I’m just giving the community the ball and letting them do the exercise of running it down field.

Your exact mentality handed this country to fascism, and you are a pariah for it.

Its an easy one to make when you’ve lived in a brain-washed media echo chamber with no self awareness.

Where’s that post-2024 election post mortem where we get to see what the DNC thinks they got wrong. Oh yeah.

Democrats, as a structure, as a party, did everything they could to suppress Democratic turnout in 2024.

And you still want to blame the ocean for the way you sail…

I just want to highlight this comment for the class to review and take apart. Do you see how their apologetics are structured to get you to vote against your own interests? The mentality that leads to this kind of shuttered mind: Its why the Democrats have failed you. A good video from prairie_fire breaking it down.