Rimu built a tool for new instance owners to bulk federate external communities on their instance to populate it. Kind of like a piefed lemmy-federate. In it, he excluded federation from communities with certain keywords that you have already bought up. The keywords were taken from another function that piefed.social has to stop listing posts and comments after 6 months applied to specific communities.

This didn’t translate well, and he removed multiple keywords referenced here from the mass federation tool when 196 mod complained.

Piefed.co.za is less than a day old and likely has done no federation at all yet. The owner literally said it’s all set up now but he’s tired and doing other things now in the Zulip chat.

It doesn’t. On Piefed if you are blocked, you should be unable to reply. It is whited out. But Lemmy obviously doesn’t work like that so incoming replies from users who are blocked, coming from Lemmy, just have it automatically thrown out.

Did Lemmy take a democratic vote about how they wanted blocking to be handled? Some users prefer someone they block being unable to reply to them. I have even seem this expressed on Hexbear.

What do you mean “made clear”? Has Piefed refused help or support from other developers?

You have already completely misunderstood this “bad list” that you referred to here. It isn’t and even at its peak before 196 mods complained, a block on all communities with those keywords.

Then I don’t know what you expect. He does respond to criticism.

Yes. So? Piefed.ca is receiving the bump here. Other instances have turned it off.

You know Rimu made a thread in !piefed_meta@piefed.social so you can ask questions or express concerns.

There’s no inbuilt system to automation moderating out low reputation accounts to my knowledge. Any instance that would do this would have to be using a third-party tool.

The Piefed system of blocking is more aligned with how most other sites do blocking. Lemmy doesn’t prevent blocked users from replying, but Piefed does. So from Piefed, if it’s working properly, you shouldn’t be able to reply to users who have blocked you. Lemmy doesn’t operate like that, so it just throws out replies. It’s due to different blocking philosophies.

Everyone knows this. This is also just piefed.social.

New users joining from Reddit aren’t dealing with self-hosting - they’re just using it. I will also add I have seen a lot of praise for how easy it is to host piefed from other instance owners.

The reputation system doesn’t shadowban content. You don’t get comments silently autoremoved for having a low reputation. You don’t get throttled either.

Have you or anyone attempted to ask rimu about this? I don’t ever recall any piefed instance owner asking this.

He has already altered or rolled back a ton of functions due to scrutiny.

I don’t get this comparison. You are scrutinising the code here as if people coming here without knowledge of how awful it apparently is will apparently be in for a rough ride. That the code excludes communities with certain keywords from being automatically added by the mass federation tool used only by instance owners (many of which have been removed now - as much of it was a copy and paste job from communities designated to shed content after 6 months) doesn’t actually impact the user experience just using the site.

What are they in for? The site seems to work fine from a user perspective.

That is from an auto-federation system for instances to bulk add new comms across instances. Any community can still be manually added. And I think most of those may have been removed now a few weeks ago. I can literally access enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world from piefed.social and all those other terms.

All new admins need to do to change things is to untick boxes.

Every single instance admin will know about it too. The reputation/attitude system did not just get quietly added a week ago.

This can be turned off by instance admins who would see this in their settings. I agree maybe a public-facing form here could be of use though.

If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?

And most people are not coders. What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?

Rimu literally wrote about it a long time ago. All instance admins would also know about it.

https://join.piefed.social/features/

Also, everyone can see the little exclamation points on accounts that are heavily downvoted from Piefed.

Some promotional posts were made on Reddit in the right comms, although none of them specifically exploded - albeit one was made also in r/buyCanadian and it seemed to surge.

It’s one thing to empower admins with mod tools, it’s another to establish reputation ratings based on opaque rules, hide them behind fake error messages, and then enforce them using destructive workarounds that cause nothing but confusion to users and other federated server admins.

The reputation ratings of users are purely based on downvotes received, it’s not really opaque.

The 4chan thing again, can be turned off.

Go ahead, be restrictive with who can participate on your server - that’s perfectly fine. But be transparent about how your moderation tools work and don’t hide punitive ranking systems in your codebase.

The reputation/attitude system is not concealed at all.

Well if you specifically want less 4chan adjacent content, piefed.social.

I support the right of every instance on Lemmy to build how they want, transparently. As you can see my main account is on .today and not .world or sh.itjust.works.

My point here is that piefed.social has pretty simular culture to lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works.

I have some real concerns about what’s considered authoritarian, considering…

Oof. That’s some social credit sounding shit right there.

Its much simpler than that. Lemmy has a spam problem. People coming in to just make shill communities selling a service or product or spamming advert posts across communities.

They usually get downvoted, but I can use Piefeds admin tools to filter for downvoted posts by new accounts. This usually catches most spammers like that. I can then ban them from piefed.social and pass that on to Lemmy admins.

A lot of Day 1 trolls are caught like this too.

I understand, not always, but most heavily downvoted accounts tend to be people looking for fights everywhere, people with long community and instance banlists etc.

4chan Filter – Flags content from 4chan for review.

This can be turned off by other instances.

And there seems to be some confusion in some of the excerpts there because it is mostly referring to what piefed.social does, and not incumbent on all other instances to do so. It also looks unfinished.