

Well you have to convict them first


Well you have to convict them first


Yes exactly, which is why rules like this should never pass.


Not to be that guy, but I can’t see this ever holding up or getting approved in the first place. As of now there is no way to discriminate based on previous occupation. The only legal grounds for job discrimination currently in California is based on being a sexual predator or violent felon. Even regular felons are allowed to be teachers. Not sure it’s a good idea to go down the path of allowing job discrimination based on what your previous job was, particularly when it’s a completely legal occupation.


Indeed. Completely understandable to establish borders to keep certain people out who might mean you harm or who might disrupt the peace of your community. Unfortunately you also need infrastructure to enforce those borders, such as documentation and an enforcement agency. But it’s worth it in order to keep your community safe.
It’s actually not even about the vaccine, but the fact that people were about to lose their jobs over it, and for what? The science didn’t support it, but zealots like you pushed it, wanted the blood of the heretics standing up to the official narratives that didn’t logically make sense. And now you downplay it while exaggerating and distorting narratives about murder in the streets.
No, I’m bothered that we couldn’t talk about natural immunity, something that was understood and taken for granted for hundreds of years prior to covid. We couldn’t talk about the origins of the virus, and we couldn’t talk about who was actually at risk and how we could respond to address that. I’m bothered that people like you thought it was ok to force people to get vaccinated or effectively be removed from society regardless of the actual risk/ benefit associated with it. People like you got the vaccine and then when it didn’t work as well as we were told it would, started to find scape goats. Thankfully the supreme court finally stepped in, otherwise who knows what big pharma could have done to society. And you would have been perfectly fine with it. Talk about fascism, how about when pharmaceutical companies collaborate with the government to force people to take their product, otherwise they cannot participate in society? Hypocrite. No moral or intellectual integrity, only justification and mental gymnastics to support your team. People like you make me sick, and lemmy is full of them.
I remember calls from the left to round up unvaccinated “plague rats”, having to present proof of vaccination to eat at restaurants, and eventually a vaccine mandate. A federal law requiring covid vaccination for the right to have a job. A new class of illegal person was created during covid.
I mean, doesn’t this work exactly in reverse for the left?
The framing is because of the context of this conversation. Also that’s a lot of words for a whattabout and an implication of racism.
Are you pointing out that illegal immigrants are criminals by definition because they are here illegally? Or are you asking why citizen criminals shouldn’t also be deported?


Not only that, but a legal obligation.
The paradox of intolerance is the one that’s been getting to me lately. People forgot that its a paradox and think it’s justification for them to attack people they disagree with.
I’m happy to welcome immigrants who want to make better lives for themselves, if they want to work hard and buy into the American dream that we all want to see succeed. If they want to take advantage or disrupt the system for their own benefit (to the detriment of the system or others), or if they don’t follow the laws, then they should be expelled.


Yeah that’s one criteria for selective enforcement, but lately it’s also been happening along political party lines.


Like immigration laws? There has always been selective enforcement.


Democrats have more to gain from ICE shooting people than Trump does.


This was inevitable and there will be more until ICE goes home or until the protesters give up.

Or if they were fake. Hard to say.

Uhh, there are at least several very large and important steps that would need to occur first. Currently the Trump administration is nowhere near actual nazi stuff, and acting otherwise severely marginalizes 4 million dead Jews.
You shouldn’t need a discriminatory law to allow it. Your resume speaks for itself. It might feel good to do something like this, but it’s flawed from the start and we shouldn’t start down that path.