Of course they’re not gonna be named. That might lead to something resembling justice.

I don’t know how many actually fired rounds, but there were absolutely more than two involved in the overall attack, and none of them seemed to be intervening in the murder, so yeah more people need to be investigated, and all of them need to be criminally charged.

Fair point. Maybe only through international means then? Abolish the death penalty except through the ICC? Maximum once per decade, but not always used. Like a Nobel prize for war crimes.

I’m not on board with the way that it’s currently applied, to be clear. I was just saying that that could be a reasonable thought for an argument for it, and that I thought that it could be valid if rarely and very publicly used for the most extreme couple of cases in a century.

I’m not here to defend the death penalty. But I’m also not gonna try too hard to protect a Hitler from that in order to get him a life sentence which could just be pardoned/commuted by his biggest fans. You’re right that we should be very careful about giving a government the right to murder a person, and that several death sentences have been carried out against people found to have been innocent, but that’s also why I bring up only using it for plainly, obviously guilty monsters like Mussolini or Hitler, and making sure that it’s inhumanely awful for them, and making it as widely visible as possible so that nobody can be unaware of what a miserable consequence you’ll suffer for doing that terrible shit.

But I also understand the hypocrisy of “it’s wrong to kill people, so we’ve decided to kill you, and that’s totally different because we decided that we have the power to legitimately decide that.” I don’t know the right answer, but it’s clear to me that there are too many monsters among us, so I’m spitballing whether there’s something that could’ve been done differently to have prevented this.

Not OP but thought I’d chime in. I became convinced in the past few years to never be on board with the death penalty, but the past year has me on the fence about very rarely applying it. I think that a public execution could serve as a deterrent, reserved only for those who are very plainly guilty of the very worst atrocities. I mean worse than mass shooters. I’m talking decades of willful societal damage. Mussolini level of horrible. If we could’ve gotten to Hitler before he could kill himself, imagine the public, tortured, slow execution, and really ask yourself how many people would dare to wave a Nazi flag or sieg heil after that.

Maybe a few of these in the entire world over a century would be enough to prevent every genocide. I’m open to trying. Life in prison allows people to forget, but recorded gruesome executions are seared into memories.

I bet they can. Just get me a hatchet.

Idk, if he were just a little more of a genocidal Nazi, then maybe he’d kill himself in a bunker like his hero did. That’s a policy decision I’d be on board with. C’mon, trump! Get those approval numbers up!

As terrible as Hitler was, he at least had a dog. This fascist couldn’t even be bothered to get a pet he pretended to like for PR purposes. Even a piece of shit like noem had a dog.

That was tried too, but he turned his head, got a bloody photo op, and used a dead firefighter’s uniform as a prop. I don’t think there will be another opening. But it’ll probably happen naturally during one of his televised cabinet meeting naps.

The Xbox version is worthless because of a glitch in the main quest that breaks the game halfway through. PlayStation runs fine, but with some lost frames near cannons for some reason. PC is the priceless version because you can unlock a porn mini game that wasn’t discovered at the time of rating it M; it was recalled since that content should’ve made it rated AO, so the launch M rated PC version is really hard to find. Check the SKU if you spot a PC copy. Not everybody knows, so you might be able to snag it for a few bucks from some unwitting mom on fb marketplace who’s just clearing out her dead son’s room.

What?! But we were told that he couldn’t be bought because he already has sooo much money!

Somebody told me that and I countered with “no, the fact that he has billions of dollars and only ever talks about things in terms of money and has no real friends means that the only thing he values is money. Above friendship, above family, above morality, above any flavor of faith. All he has in the world is money, and he thinks himself successful, so he’d sell everything in the world for just a little more.”

I’m reminded of how justice is served on the ice in a hockey game. If a player executes an illegal, dangerous hit on another player, especially if the victim is the goalie or a star player, and the refs don’t call shit, then that guy is about to get his ass beat.

There will be consequences, even if the DoJ refuses to act. The heat is rising on this cold civil war. When trump crowns himself head of the fed and slashes interest rates, and when the dollar crashes soon thereafter, shit’s gonna get crazy.

I’m also predicting that somebody high up in this administration refers to America as an “empire” and then a “realm” and possibly just straight up a “reich” within this year.

Agreed, but they’ll try to argue that violent protesters could kill thousands of innocent people, so killing them is the morally right thing to do. Here, they’re arguing that Renee Good was a domestic terrorist that was using her vehicle as a weapon to try to kill the ICE guy, even though it’s blatantly obvious that that’s not what was happening in the slightest.

I’m just saying that they’re escalating. They’re hoping that people either stay home because they’re afraid of being executed just for being outside, or retaliate and permit them to escalate further. And even an extreme retaliation will not eradicate the fascism, so I’m not sure what the right move is now that we’re at this point.

Renee Good didn’t open fire on police and still didn’t make it to a jury trial. When unarmed, peaceful people are executed as though they’re violent protesters, there’s no longer any real reason to be unarmed, peaceful people.

This federal government wants people to open fire on police. This would justify a further police state, martial law, and cancelling the midterm elections that they’re definitely on pace to lose disastrously. Natural causes is taking its sweet time, but even if it weren’t I don’t think the next guy would change a thing unless his owners told him to.

They were commenting on his disregard for consent or even negotiation. He takes what he wants. He “grabs them by the pussy,” as it were.

“Well y’all got uppity when we were killing blacks here at home, so what are we supposed to do? Kill zero blacks total? Pfft. Get a load of this guy. Next I guess you’ll be expecting us to fuck zero children. Be realistic.”

– Republicans who can’t even kill zero puppies

Blame big dairy.

Relevant Climate Town video

I’m up near Winchester and every day on my commute I pass a “DUMP BIDEN” sign nailed to a tree along 7. Trump has been president for a year. Biden dropped out of the race like a year and a half ago. Are these weiners ever gonna clean up their trash?

Prove to me that he’s not already a king. He suffers zero consequences and solely controls every aspect of the federal government. He is what a 6 year old thinks the president is.

My regular job schedule is rotating 12 hour shifts. We work 3 or 4 days/nights in a row, either 0400 to 1600 or 1600 to 0400, and then get a few days off to flip sleep schedule to do it again on the opposite shift. The benefit to this schedule is that every 4th week, we’re scheduled 7 days off in a row. But because of vacations and callouts, it’s pretty common to have to come in on days off to cover.

We also have two times per year for about 3-8 weeks where everybody would 6 or 7 day weeks. That’s 72 or 84 hours in a week. And because we’re hourly, that’s very good money, but because the cost of living is so high in the area most of us are commuting about an hour each way. So every 12 hour day is roughly 14 hours away from home. So those times of year are really 84 or 98 hours per week away from home, and a week only has 168 hours.

The work itself is also fairly demanding. We don’t just sit at a desk. We are climbing ladders, carrying heavy shit around, shoveling, turning valves, running to respond to alarms, etc. A light day is still a day at the gym.

Despite this, there is an absurd amount of pressure to come in a significant amount more for training or you’ll never get a promotion. And a lot of my coworkers seem to be happy to do that.

Idk what they’re doing with their time outside of work, but it seems like they can’t possibly have time for anything meaningful. I don’t understand the point of chasing money that hard if you don’t give yourself any time to spend it. I keep talking myself out of spending on things I want because I know I won’t actually spend any time enjoying those things, so I’m just sitting on a useless pile of money and working at a place that’s trying to push me into trading even more of my time for even more useless money. And nobody seems to see the problem. I’m glad that my bills are paid and everything, but how the fuck is this different from being a slave that’s housed and fed?

All I do is work and sleep, and I’m expected to work even more, and I’m surrounded by people who think I’m crazy for not pulling 60+ hours every week. That sort of schedule is what somebody who hates their family does, and I happen to like my wife.

I wish that directly following that tirade about strength and power, Jake Tapper had punched the absolute fuck out of Stephen’s face and made him bawl his Nazi eyes out right in front of the cameras for his Nazi fans to be embarrassed by. Why was big balls the only Nazi that’s gotten his ass kicked lately?

Others have responded to you with part of what I wanted to bring up, but I also have another aspect to add to the rationale. These nepo babies aren’t just inheriting access and opportunities, but also a wealthy and comfortable upbringing. The child of a multimillionaire actor/musician/athlete not only has the inroads of their parents’ network and reputation, but also access to premium diets, exercise, doctors, schools, coaches, etc AND didn’t have to worry about getting a job at Chipotle or whatever while in high school or right after, and definitely didn’t have to balance that in order to help their family with bills.

It’s a lot easier to get into Hollywood when your parents are already famous, but that really only gets you the auditions. Being able to work on honing your craft for 40+ hours per week without becoming homeless, going hungry, or losing sleep is a motherfucking luxury. I rarely get to practice guitar anymore because my job is so taxing both mentally and physically, so I’ll probably never get better, so access to a producer still wouldn’t really help me to win out over a nepo baby. They could truly be the greatest of their generation because they were able to and encouraged to perfect their skills for their craft without having to spend their time on literally anything else.