In my case, the wrist was not possible to set, even with the cast. Some stuff was pulverized and due to the broken ulna, other stuff had slipped out of place. The cast was only to prevent further damage.

The fentanyl dose I was given upon the arrival of the ambulance wore off as I was waiting for xrays and then to see a hand surgeon to interpret the result, so I asked for more, and was given some.

After that I spent a little over a week in constant pain while waiting for the surgery. A dislocated wrist hurts like hell.

I can’t imagine spending I single moment during that week without any kind of pain relief.

People love to shit on our healthcare system here, but in my experience it’s been amazing.

Same.

But in terms of quality of care, I have no complaints. The opposite. The nurses and doctors I interacted with were wonderful, and I made a point of telling them that. My surgeon in particular fought like hell for a result that would fully restore function in my hand. I was conscious for the surgery, so I got to sit in on the whole process.

Just under 800 euro iirc.

We do have that, too. (Private insurance and healthcare, I mean)

But most services even as a public patient do cost something here. Small stuff is usually a pittance, and if you say you can’t pay, they’ll either waive it or put you on an extremely generous payment plan. I know stuff like asking for painkillers in a waiting room is free though. Just the work of keeping track of that type of thing to charge for it, isn’t worth it.

But the more expensive stuff can add up. That’s why the maximum exists, but apparently even the extremely complex repair of my wrist, barely dents it.

Completely opposite to the finnish experience.

When I broke my ulna and dislocated my wrist, I took an ambulance ride to the hospital, got three xrays, a cast, and two doses of fentanyl.

Told to return the next morning for post-cast xrays of the damage, by the end of that I was scheduled for surgery 8 days later. Sent home with a prescription for some non-opioid painkillers. Picked those up for around 20 euros.

Received four hours of hand surgery. Over a dozen titanium screws and a titanium plate put in. Given three pills of an opioid based painkiller for sleeping through the worst of the post-surgery pain. And another prescription for more non-opioids.

Weeks later, removal of the surgery bandages and stitches. Xrays of how the bone was healing, followed by a consultation with a hand surgeon, and then a physical therapist on recovering motion in the wrist and fingers.

Months later one more round of xrays, and two more consultations with the physical therapist, and some follow-up with a hand surgeon due to the therapist noticing a lack of motion in my thumb, resulting in the discovery of some nerve-damage from the surgery (which I thankfully ended up recovering from).

By the end, I was sure I would max out the healthcare billing limit. This was the most expensive recovery from an injury I’d ever suffered. Finnish public health care is only allowed to bill you up to a maximum yearly amount, so as to never overload any one individual with debt. But it would still be a lot for me.

When I finally got an un-itemized bill, I was sure it was only the first of many.

Nope. It was the total. 87 euros and 40 cents.

Ologies.

Each episode features a guest expert on a subject, talking about their field.

Think psychologist, dermatologist, neurologist, etc.

Except it’s often fields of study you didn’t even know have an “ology” title for the people who study it.

If you say you like the winter but you dislike the cold and the snow, then what would you call that?

Normal. Again, people can like the same things for different reasons. They don’t have to enjoy the weather conditions to find snowy landscapes beatiful, for example.

You keep arguing as if I am the one who defined what winter is.

Winter is a time of year. Winter still comes and goes, even if there is no snow, or negative temps. The one constant, is the earths position relative to the sun, and some of the effects that has, such as amount and angle of light in a day.

I’m arguing like your idea of what winter is, is horseshit. Because it is. You act as if select aspects of it are intrinsic, and that each of them must be enjoyed, for a person to be able to claim they enjoy winter, without you labeling them a hypocrite. But each person can enjoy or dislike whatever aspects they want, and come to whatever conclusions they come to, about how it all balances out and makes them feel about it.

If you really want to get pedantic, you could reduce all this “oh yeah, I really enjoy when our hemisphere of the planet is tilted away from our sun, it’s my favorite orbital phase”. And guess what? That would still be a valid reason for someone to honestly like winter! Who are you and me to judge whether their dislike of the cold outweighs their enthusiasm for orbital mechanics?

But i suppose anything is winter if you do it during the winter.

Yes! That is how seasons work!

Was that so hard?

Enjoying the mere concept of something, is a perfectly valid reason to enjoy a time of year. Regardless of how directly you engage with the actual conditions involved.

I’m frankly at a loss of what to say other than that you don’t understand what words mean.

I mean exactly what I’ve said. I don’t know what to tell you if you can’t read it in sequence, and get something that makes sense.

If you’re going to bring up semantics, you should be pointing out what it is you’ve noticed, what confuses you, and why.

If you want me to correct for a difference in our definitions, you’ll have to actually point them out, not just blankly ask “what do you think words mean?”.

https://youtu.be/yDp3cB5fHXQ?t=5134

Internet Historian.

Plagiarism.

Getting downvoted by the majority is your idea of a “point that explains itself”?

Either your point doesn’t explain itself, or you made it poorly. Or it didn’t make sense in the first place.

Either way, the next step any normal person would take, is to ELABORATE. If to no one else, at least to themselves, so as to validate their assumptions.

If you can’t, your point should be dropped.

If you just go “well, it’s obvius” then you didn’t do that. What you did, was ignore potential data.

You on the other hand require whole paragraphs to try to convince yourself that whatever you think is true, is.

I might write with the confidence of knowing I’m right, but at least I’m not at the level of hubris where I write as if you’re delusional enough to already agree with me, and desperately trying to pull the wool back over your head.

If your goal isn’t to make a genuine attempt to convince me, why are you here?

Clearly, your stance doesn’t stand on it’s own, so for gods sake reinforce it.

And if you wont do that, how are you NOT a troll?

you only care about your own arguments

I’m literally begging you to present yours.

claiming that I’M claiming to be the omnipotent

You’re replying too fast. I’m saying you can’t be, but would need to be, to have a valid argument.

No, my point explains itself.

If you can’t explain it, then you don’t understand it. As far as I can tell, your only point is that you can tell when someone is being hypocritical, based on a single point of behaviour, on a matter as wide as the seasons. That’s correlation=causation type nonsense.

Semantics? Really?

Rewording an argument when someone refuses to engage with it is a great way to make a point multiple times, to try to get enough pieces of it into someones head, so they might get it.

This way of doing it has a chance of working even when someone is actively refusing to think.

What is your strategy? Be annoying?

No.

I’m right because I’m right, and your refusal to actually consider what I’ve said in your position is mind boggling. You HAVE to be trolling? Right?!

Your position would require omnipotence on your part to be valid, yet you claim to be able to determine the presence of hypocrisy based on factors that have no obligation to correlate with the conclusion you are claiming is obvious.

Oh look, here I go paraphrasing my own point again. As if you’ll finally comprehend it enough to put together the beginnings of a valid retort.

The discussion is over.

I’m clearly incapable of helping you get it.

That, or you’re a troll. Which seems much more likely.

I can’t imagine any sane person discovering how unpopular their position is as yours, and not stopping to reconsider whether they might not have an accurate understanding of how people think about the subject.

“Hey… Nice mass surveillance system you got there, mind if I have a turn?”

It boggles my mind how some people thought privacy was worthless, and harmless to give up.

Why does that lead to liking winter?

I hate insects.

They only show up in summer.

Does that make me a liar if I claim to like summer?

You can think whatever you like, it doesn’t change the fact you’re detecting dishonesty where none is present.

You’re just wrong.

Liking a time of year does not require engaging in “exclusive” activities to “prove” it.

End of discussion.

Bottom line: your lack of comprehension does not make other people hypocritical.

It just makes you dense.

Then I’d argue, you just like ice-fishing.

How does that lead to liking winter? That’s just the time of year.

The answer, is the same way people who like winter for any other reason.

Nothing about the winter enables you in particular to sit with cocoa and a heated blanket. Other than the fact that you like to sit under blankets with cocoa.

Ask around. The vast majority of people will simply say “it’s not the same”.

Because it isn’t. It’s not winter.

The original “One” phone was even supposed to run cyanogemod out of the box at one point.

How is the activity relevant?

Are you sure you enjoy winter? Maybe you just like going outside. No winter “needed” for that.

And before you say “I like being outside during/because it’s winter” the exact same sentence works for people who “like being cozy indoors during/because it’s winter”.

The latter is not possible in the summer, the way it isn’t possibly for you to enjoy “winter” in the summer by walking into a refrigerated hockey hall. It’s not winter.

Because it’s a time of year, not an activity or even a set of conditions.

Different people enjoy the same thing for different reasons. That doesn’t make them dishonest or hypocritical.