that’s it. nothing more to really add to it. it’s quite simple.

  • Sc00ter@lemmy.zip
    21·
    8 hours ago

    You also need some way to validate that its not interface specific. The amount of threads that ive been in that have had people complaining that the artist name was cropped, but in my app (voyager) ive been able to see the whole image, is too damn high.

  • carrylex@lemmy.world
    621·
    9 hours ago

    The way to hell is paved with good intensions…

    The current proposal is not specific enough: With your proposal every post effectively requires an artist signature. There will always be some valid reason why there is none. Also who should check/enforce this? The single non-existing mod? xD

    Keep it simpler and make a rule that says: Content created by somebody else requires attribution.

    Attribution could be an artist signature in the comic, the name of the artist in the description or a link to the original source in a comment.

    • agent_nycto@lemmy.world
      11·
      7 hours ago

      If I were to indulge in pedantry, the rule would be against cropping signatures, not requiring they exist. If it’s unsigned then there’s nothing to crop. I like your phrasing much better though, require attribution if you have it.

    • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldOP
      3·
      6 hours ago

      My good dude, hell has the good food, the good music, the good wine, even the good Nixon(below) (the evil one went to heaven, have you seen the kind of people that go there?).

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
    32·
    12 hours ago

    If there’s no conveniently available version with the artist credit in the image, a link to the artist’s page in the post body I think would suffice.

  • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.netEnglish
    12·
    11 hours ago

    Don’t know if I get a vote here, but I am strongly in favour — especially as you’ve said that it’s not necessarily going to be a bannable offence. I think that rules can serve as a valuable statement of intention — like virtue signalling, except without the negative connotations of that term

  • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
    1154·
    16 hours ago

    A good number of strips will be pre-cropped, or the equivalent. So what you’d really want when the signature’s missing is to have the poster do reverse-image as necessary so as to identify the creator, making sure to include that information.

    There’s also the fact that doubtless there will be posters ignoring such a rule / guideline, ideally necessitating mod intervention. Meanwhile, the one and only mod looks like they haven’t been active in a month.

    ¯\(ツ)/¯

      • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
        341·
        15 hours ago

        Are there ways this could be implemented though that would not punish people who accidentally posted the wrong one though. You have a good idea, but we also have very few contributors on Lemmy and we don’t want to discourage that either.

        • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldOP
          67·
          15 hours ago

          i mean we don’t have to make it a bannable offense, we just have to say “hey, go find the original if you can”. it’s a pretty relaxed community right?

        • AnyOldName3@lemmy.world
          29·
          15 hours ago

          Unlike Reddit, it’s possible to edit the link a post links to after the fact, so it’s possible to swap in an uncropped link later instead of just removing the post.

          • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
            7·
            13 hours ago

            I’d be in favor of that. Not an instant ban rule but more of a “No link provided, please use TinEye or something to find the original and update your post”

          • ViperActual@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            5·
            13 hours ago

            This is the key. If someone shares something that may have the attribution missing or is too jpg, the post link can be edited to the better version.

            If users are posting too many comics that are missing attribution without following through to update post links to versions with them, then they’ll get the book thrown at them and won’t be allowed to post anymore.

      • RustyShackleford@piefed.socialEnglish
        19·
        15 hours ago

        Here’s an idea: add easily accessible links so that even those less technologically inclined can easily reverse image search. Since many younger users are moving to Lemmy, they might not fully understand all the rules you’re trying to enforce.

        • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldOP
          16·
          14 hours ago

          This is A. Good. Point.

          If i actually lose my mind and agree to mod this sub in a few months i’m saving this so i can come back to it, I have to look up how to reverse image search every damn time. And one of my first jobs was working IT building computers and programming bullshit dammit I’m not completely tech naive, just stuck in windows 7 because fuck you microsoft.

          anyways, thank you Rusty, I am making you Honorary Something. Whatever it is, whenever we think of it, you are it. That was a great idea.

          • [object Object]@lemmy.world
            2·
            4 hours ago

            There’s a great addon for Firefox, ‘Search by Image’, which can open reverse search engines straight from the context menu. Not very useful for those who aren’t chronically online, of course.

            Also, of all the search engines, Yandex is great at finding larger image sizes which are typically the originals (or upscales or poor crops). Afaik Tineye stopped updating years ago.

      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
        12·
        15 hours ago

        Also, if you like the strip and have the time, help the person out and put up a signature or post the original with a signature, while reminding them that they should have posted a signature as well. These communities are a team effort.

      • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
        5·
        16 hours ago

        True. Assuming they pay any attention to that one out of an unusually long list of sidebar rules. That doesn’t change the mod situation, either, and you’d need a mod to actually add that rule.

    • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      15·
      13 hours ago

      Images with the creator’s name cropped shouldn’t be shared anyway, plus they’re usually deep-fried and look like a blurry mess. People should be looking for originals to replace the crappy quality ones.

      • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        13 hours ago

        Well, woulda-coulda-shoulda. It’s nice that people are willing to make suggestions and discuss the issue, but in cases like this, it actually needs someone to join the mod team here and then apply their vigilance on an ongoing basis towards stuff that broke the rules.

        • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          4·
          13 hours ago

          There are some good suggestions in the comments, like providing a link on how to reverse image search to the sidebar to make it easier to find originals. It would be best if it were something that was encouraged rather than strictly enforced.

          • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
            3·
            13 hours ago

            For Firefox, there’s a super-handy extension that lets you right-click on an image and then gives you a choice of eight different services (or all of them) to reverse-image search. I use it all the time.

            Regardless, even going in the low-maintenance ‘suggestion, not a hard guideline’ route would require an active mod here to at the very least add the suggestion to the sidebar. Currently, there isn’t one, seemingly. This gets in to sort of a Meta issue about communities that get abandoned to some extent. It’s a real problem across the Fediverse, and I don’t believe enough collective focus is happening to deal with the issue.

            If you look at this thread, it’s full of people saying, “yeah, let’s do this!” and “cool, sounds good!” but nobody in a position to act is effectively listening. This is what it looks like when there’s a bunch of chatter and nothing actually happens, sort of like a loud protest that doesn’t actually change anything.

            • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              13 hours ago

              Yeah, if there’s no active mod it’s a non-starter. But people don’t have any reason to know that’s the case. Considering how relatively big this community is (for Lemmy) it’s impressive it functions without a human mod as well as it does.

              • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialEnglish
                2·
                12 hours ago

                But people don’t have any reason to know that’s the case.

                They can do the same thing I did, which was to click on the one mod here and see their activity history?

                it’s impressive it functions without a human mod as well as it does.

                I think that’s what naturally tends to happen when a community hits a critical mass of subscribers, combined with a highly popular subject. Also, this doesn’t strike me as a /c with much potential for controversy. *shrug*

    • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      10 hours ago

      This is where I land as well. I fully support giving creators their credit, but this seems like a lot of red tape for very little payoff.

    • Deestan@lemmy.world
      101·
      15 hours ago

      So what you’d really want when the signature’s missing is to have the poster do reverse-image […]

      Nah, they can just not perpetuate stolen art. Keep it easy.

  • ripcord@lemmy.world
    14·
    13 hours ago

    I find that it’s pretty rare anyone here would do it intentionally. Usually that comes from people just resharing something they found on Instagram or somewhere.

    I agree people should try to find the original author and post the original in that case. But I think that should be called out instead.

    Edit: This comment is redundant, but oh well

  • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldOP
    282·
    16 hours ago

    honestly this is mostly because i’m about to bike out and help my comic book buddy with his taxes. but c’mon people, be respectful to the artists.