My company recently migrated from on-premise to AWS to “save money”; in the first month we now have test environment instances which we shut down outside of business hours because of high cost.
Great, so work gets done slower AND we pay more? Fucking genius.
Cloud is a sick joke to capture revenue.
AWS
save money
lmao
Yeah, but it’s OpEx, so it’s just imaginary expenditure.
I’ve heard this before but I still can’t wrap my head around why some money counts and some doesn’t
@boatswain @egrets same as firing staff only to use more expensive contractors to do the same job, or selling a building you own only to rent the same building from someone else. It doesn’t come from the same budget line, because it’s lower risk, in the sense that you could in theory just stop paying the money if your strategy/situation changes, and you won’t have ongoing expenses just from “owning” the thing. In reality you’re usually still locked in, just paying more.
Creative business accounting.
I miss having data centres.
It was fine to run a SQL query that took 6 hours because the cost was a few dollars.
Now that cost is thousands of dollars.
Hurray!
I used to be on a team of 10 people that installed & managed roughly 3,000 servers and associated networking gear. We got hit hard in the early 2000’s by the Capacitor Plague and it fell on me to identify around 700 faulty motherboards and manage their replacement.
I don’t miss that at all…
You’re gonna get some “git gud scrub” responses, but really the high cost is just what everyone discovers; it’s just your turn.
In both my jobs I went through the eager take-up of (pub) cloud and saas schemes, and then the eventual 90% repatriation of compute.
Turns out it’s still cheaper to run your own team with your own prov-cloud gear in a DC. Like, usually by a good amount. Yes, Virginia, even if you’re a black belt cloud master of saas (which is just sales and kool-aid).
Not to self-promote, but I have expressed my opinion on the topic.
Wait until you will need a team of people to optimize cloud costs.(finops) for peak irony.
Get customer to platform
Lock in customer
Raise costs
Profit
Do we work for the same company? Exactly same story here. Also just botched the Oracle to Aurora migration.
Are you counting in the cost of running on prem? Hardware, aircon, building security, electricity, hardware tech support?
“The Cloud” just means “someone else’s sever”. A lot of people who should know better just don’t get that.
It’s entertaining to take almost any internal memo or external press release and substitute “someone else’s server” every time “the cloud” appears. They all suddenly look insane.
Yes, but it also means someone else’s responsibility to maintain the infrastructure (lower cost often times) and someone else is accountable for down time.
Atlassian hasn’t had a great history of
- Understanding cloud
- Deploying anything reliable into the cloud
Now they’re 100% SAAS? This is gonna be sad.
Yup, migrating the docs from on-prem confluence to the cloud one has just been an utter disaster in my company.
I don’t even want to know how much we pay for this shit.
Depends on seat count. But even a “small” (the smallest bucket of seats is 500) on prem install of data center/confluence can be in 6 figures…
I work in the hosting business. We have servers and create VMs and have backups. The customer can have as much control of the VM as they chose including locking us out. (They take on the risk as well if course.) We have pretty decent margins on hosting and offer to help out with configuration and such for billable hours and I often feel like what we charge are ridiculous. Yet we have potential customers demanding to see our hidden fees (we have none) and some explanation of how we can be so cheap. Some simply refuse to believe our prices when compared to the giant clouds.
Yeah, you would think it would be the other way around with economies of scale
so ig ReactOS issue tracker and Minecraft issue tracker needs to migrate (both use Jira)
but i think Minecraft will stay with the SaaS option
