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A🔻atar of 🔻engeance@lemmy.ml to History@mander.xyzEnglish · 8 months ago

The successful 70-year campaign to convince people the USA and not the USSR beat Hitler

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The successful 70-year campaign to convince people the USA and not the USSR beat Hitler

www.vox.com

A🔻atar of 🔻engeance@lemmy.ml to History@mander.xyzEnglish · 8 months ago
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Vox is a general interest news site for the 21st century. Its mission: to help everyone understand our complicated world, so that we can all help shape it. In text, video and audio, our reporters explain politics, policy, world affairs, technology, culture, science, the climate crisis, money, health and everything else that matters. Our goal is to ensure that everyone, regardless of income or status, can access accurate information that empowers them.
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    This post is a basic history lesson, but if you want, we can get into the history of US support for fascism in Ukraine and how that connects with its role in WWII 😊

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      Listen, I wouldnt jerk myself to ANY authoritarian government pieces of shit like you’re doing here, which has yes included Russia and their oligarchs. I read Navalny’s last book, did you?* How about that for a fucking history lesson. Do you know what the Holodomor was? Do you know why we have so much Russia diaspora? Do you know what Russian women say about wars in Russia? The wealthy of Russia have done FUCK ALL to protect anyone, LEAST OF ALL THEIR AVERAGE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DEFENDED US IN WW2, except put their citizens into a fucking meat grinder in wars, put them into prisons to torture and rape them and kill them to sell as videos online so they can blackmail the people who buy them, and literally stolen their money.

      The Russian people are not their government. The Israeli peolle are not their government. The Chinese people are not their government. You misattribute to authoritarians characteristics of the average citizen - you’re stealing their accomplishments for the wealthy. Stick your history lesson up your ass

      -*Note how I never said Navalny was a good person in every position - but he is a great example of Russia’s authoritarian government seizing Putin’s political rival and torturing him for over a year. His last book is wild to read because it is from his PoV while he is in prison being tortured. I respect his capacity to spite fascist governments in control of his country (it’s notable that he wasn’t in control).

      Meanwhile, Putin has directly funded Nazis and Nazi propaganda worldwide so he can start wars in those countries to “stop the Nazis” to put his men in another meat grinder

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        Hahahahahaha Navalny’s book you love Hitlerslop https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches

        Google holodomor huh? Lmao. Homework for you. https://annas-archive.se/md5/9f9f3ebb076a7ed2d91f51d0e5440f20 https://annas-archive.se/md5/dbf40cb981d075d2ecfd00af5dad05d4 If you flat out refuse to engage criticisms of the historical works you were presented with then don’t pretend to understand the subject enough to be analytical.

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          You have to engage with my actual points first, so far you haven’t done so. Providing material isn’t an argument or refutation.

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            Oh you’re playing interrogator are you? Did you even bother to click on the video of Navalny talking about massacring immigrants?

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              Sorry, it’s still your turn to fully address my points. I’ll respond when you give me a good faith argument that addresses my points, as I did for you.

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                You’ve appointed yourself the Wikipedia interrogator of the network have you? It’s identical to interacting with a Zionist. There are no “turns” here, you aren’t playing a game, you’re clinging to lies and plugging your ears because you’re a fool.

                Thank you for doubling down on ignoring Navalny’s fascism. Makes the message perfectly clear

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                  Lots of projection and bad faith arguments there from someone who can’t form a valid rebuttal lol. What a tantrum. Good faith arguments, fallacies, and logic are what we build legal systems and reasoning on, because it is what is sensical and provable and arguable. I can’t argue something nonsensical and nonarguable by definition (which is why people arguing in bad faith use them - to be manipulative). Thus, you lose because you aren’t arguing, you’re just spewing ego everywhere.

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                    https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches

                    The last book you read was by a guy who wants to gun immigrants down, your comments on this? Is this the kind of thinking you admire?

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                    https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches

                    The last book you read was by a guy who wants to gun immigrants down, your comments on this? Is this the kind of thinking you admire?

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            https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches

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                Evidence? “Cia told me to believe this” is not evidence btw

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            https://archive.org/details/VideoAlexeiNavalnyComparesMuslimsToCockroaches

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        How does that play into what your mother and I did last night for only $20?

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            Which country lost the most citizens to the Holocaust?

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