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Nick @ The Linux Experiment@mastodon.social to Firefox@fedia.io · 1 year ago

As promised, here is an interview with @ryanleesipes from #Thunderbird, on the whole #Mozilla and #Firefox terms of use situation.

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As promised, here is an interview with @ryanleesipes from #Thunderbird, on the whole #Mozilla and #Firefox terms of use situation.

Nick @ The Linux Experiment@mastodon.social to Firefox@fedia.io · 1 year ago
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As promised, here is an interview with @ryanleesipes@mastodon.social from #Thunderbird, on the whole #Mozilla and #Firefox terms of use situation.

We talk about why this had to happen, how Thunderbird will handle their own Terms of Use, what’s happening at Mozilla, and what’s changing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctg5QzSt5tg

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    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social @ryanleesipes@mastodon.social

    “Why this had to happen”? Well, that’s certainly ominous and gaslight-y. Will #Mozilla next be asserting the right to scrape and sell the contents of our emails as well?

    #Thunderbird

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      @argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org @ryanleesipes@mastodon.social It actually did have to happen, du to regulator pressures. How it was done isn’t good, IMO, but they did have to add terms of use.

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        @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social

        Quoth the ToU announcement:

        > the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) defines “sale” as the “selling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or other means, a consumer’s personal information by [a] business to another business or a third party” in exchange for “monetary” or “other valuable consideration.”

        Mozilla is not supposed to be doing any of that!

        @ryanleesipes@mastodon.social

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        @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social @argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org @ryanleesipes@mastodon.social FWIW, these changes make Firefox not really a viable option anymore in the current political environment, independent of whether the changes “had to happen.”

        Such a big change should merit reconsideration of the contract with google rather than the drastic widening of TOS on behalf of all users (esp considering one of the first things I do is disable google as the default search engine).

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