I’ve seen that some subreddits went dark and said they’d come back in 2 days (June 14th), and others said they’d go dark indefinitely, until the API changes are rolled back. I’d like to make an appeal for the admins who’re willing to go back: please don’t.
I think Reddit wouldn’t withstand 2 weeks to a month without their largest subreddits, and maybe they’d change their minds about API changes. Some may say they’d just make the subreddits public again and promote someone to mod (which I totally agree, they’ll probably do that if the blackout endures for too much time), but I think most people don’t realise the PITA it is to be a good mod, and just want to be one because of the status (I’m not an ex-mod btw, I just heard it is very complicated to moderate and I believe it really is).
Secondly, there’s no guarantee that Reddit won’t pull the rug again. Even if they roll back the changes and everyone goes back, they’ll probably come up with this strategy again some time in the future. So instead of going back, stay in the Fediverse: all applications are open source AFAIK; you can run your own instance if you wish; you can defederate other instances if you wish; you can contribute with new features you miss or create a fork aplication of your own if you want to; heck, you could create your own Fediverse application if you want. And there won’t be a scumbag to come and try stop you.
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The latest response from Reddit personally makes me quite furious https://tenor.com/038z.gif
So yeah… Even if they revert shit I’m probably not going back there as much as I possibly can.
I say “as much as I possibly can” because Reddit has a stupid large archive of problem troubleshooting and solutions, which would make it difficult to completely abandon it in my opinion
I am actually done with Reddit at this moment. This blackout showed me what Reddit is without the communities and the people. It felt really empty and unusable and it won’t get any better. CEO of Reddit is a certified idiot. Right now trying to figure out how to delete my posts/comments and stuff (with a script) before deleting my Reddit account.
On Android there’s an app called Redact that will scrub your social media accounts. I used it on my reddit account and it worked well.
Thanks for letting me know of this. It is even cross-platform… Works pretty much on everything. For the ones who are interested, here’s a link: https://redact.dev
Before you do… consider copying the text of your top posts into a doc, then reposting them here. It’s OUR content, so we can take it with us when we leave.
Yes, right now trying to make the doc. Will take a while though… but it will be worth it to upload it here. Can’t wait to be ready to delete Reddit out of my life.
Correct - I’m out. I’m sure many will go back and my absence won’t make a difference, but I’m out and I’m not budging.
I will remain on reddit until 1 particular community moves here, but this will likely become my new “reddit”
What community is that? Make it here and start the move. I’m sure others from there are looking for an alternative
It’s probably something niche and made up of people that just see it as a place to gather and share stuff, not into ideology, politics, etc.
That’s my issue. Loads of very niche subreddits that are the opposite of technical (gardening and plants and stuff). So the users will never switch… It took 5+ years to build those communities up in the first place.
But I popped back in to check today, and they’re all back open and the users are terrible, just ranting against the blackout and licking reddits boot like crazy. So it makes me sad to lose those communities and all that information, but if thats the quality of the userbase… I can’t bring myself to go back.
You’d think there’d be overlap between organic gardening, or NoLawns, or homesteading that would click with the federated, less capitalistic Lemmy… But nope.
I plan on going back, but only to encourage mod teams to move to lemmy.
Same here. I’ve been commenting on any story I come across there mentioning the protests and crackdowns encouraging ppl to move. Word will get out, if we keep at it.
I ran a tiny subreddit dedicated to my favourite author, Bill Bryson. That’s gone forever. I used Apollo.
I highly doubt they will budge. They’re making a very loud statement by changing what they did. Because of that I will never look at reddit the same again. But on the other hand I’m glad it’s came to what it has, I would have never sought out and found lemmy. I’m glad to be a part of something new.
Yes it feels like discovering reddit all over again! But this time we’re all discovering it together :)
I thought from the beginning that planning a blackout for just 2 days was self defeating. All they need to do is ride it out. And they got enough disinterested users and subs still active these two days that it’s not really hurting them long term. The only way it hurst them is if it’s a longer strike against engagement with Reddit
I won’t go back to a place where I was worried of my wonderful piracy communities getting the plug pulled on them. This place is home now.
I feel the same. Can’t believe those piracy communities survived this long on that platform…
I was pretty baffled by it myself and I’m a newcomer
I will go back. To delete my users.
Ultimately I might have to sorta “go back” if only to post to remind people that I’m also (more) available elsewhere.
I haven’t been this excited about the internet in a long time. It feels good to be a part of something that belongs to us, the people. Watching this grow gives me hope that one day we actually will be able to break free from capitalism.
Agreed. I have given a fair amount of my time and energy to creating a sense of community in several subreddits and have been a member for over a decade. But the fact that they suddenly see dollar signs and want to burn that social capital for a quick buck does not speak well for the future of the site. One way or another, they are going to sell out and fuck over the user to make money.
I’m done.
It’s looking promising between Lemmy & Mastodon, things seem smoother than when I last checked them back when Elon started snapping Twitter.
It still doesn’t seem to be anywhere near mainstream, it’s mainly tech people and bots by the looks of things and I’m not sure how this is fixed without advertising and maybe not having to copy and paste links between servers.
Reddit had variety. Some of the neckbeards there didn’t even use linux which, whilst being wrong, added a little color.
Reddit was moaning about the cost of maintaining a public API that is being heavily farmed by AI learning, could this be an issue for the hosting of Lemmy?
On the plus side, copy & paste in a browser works here!
“I think the wouldn’t last 2 weeks”
Unlike digg, I think they would. I think they will :(
Agreed. As much as I’d like to think they won’t, they will. They’ll find a way to monetize the OF promotion subs, plus make the site more microblogging like… cuz apparently, that is what works regarding social networks. That and the fact that the crowd that they now dislike (us) has left, leaves them a clean slate to do whatever they want. And they will, just not with us.
Reddit is not gonnna crumble, wait and see.
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I agree but I think also most of the quality posters will begin leaving as the platform becomes more shittified, beyond those of us that are quitting in protest. I have been noticing a significant decline in the quality of conversations in the last couple of years in a few of my subs, as some people obsessed with karma started inserting themselves in every possible conversation and steering the subs in the direction they wanted. Which is not Reddit’s fault, but it seems to happen every time a social media platform reaches critical mass, and the karma system encouraged that. Some people almost literally live for the karma - how many times have you seen redditors complain about being downvoted? That sort of thing ends up attracting people desperate for attention.
Quality posts may be gone, but that doesn’t mean more people will leave the platform. For most of humanity, it just works. Shitposts, OF promotion subs and just general “show me your genitals” subs will continue to exist. And that is what most of humanity cares about. I myself do enjoy that from time to time, but in a regulated manner, which is why I have multiple accounts here and on reddit. Most people just wanna see some nudes, wanna laugh at some posts, cringe things, etc. Those subs won’t go dark and didn’t go dark. I have a few of them on one of my accounts and they still thrive. Not to mention the relationship/dating/amiugly subs, they also have a massive following, more than 1k comments on a single post, that’s huge.
So, basically, that just leaves the tech (and not all of them BTW) and politics related subs that might shift directions to switch to lemmy. Everythings else will more or less stay on reddit.
That being said, there is a spike of bots posting on reddit for the past 2, 3 days. Most notably on the NSFW subs cuz no one actually cares what’s being posted there (moderation is almosy none existent). And that, allong with the subs with most posts, that will make up for the posts of the communities protesting and everything will continue as if nothing happened.
I honestly don’t plan to. I’ve been way less into it in recent years, I used to doomscroll for hours at a time but now I have TikTok and Discord servers that I am more occupied with. I like Lemmy a lot better already, we just need more people to use it.
How do you find Discord servers you are interested in? I have some game-related ones but not much else
I always find discord stuff weird because you really have to initiate conversations and its definitely the most “social” of social medias.
May sound stupid but idk its prolly just a mental block
I feel the same. Also, you cannot see threads in a tree structure.
Discord could become the next Reddit if they introduced this feature (Edit: And a bunch other, Ofc)
Right now, it seems Lemmy is the best safe haven - albeit still in its infancy.
Isn’t Discord more of the same tho? Closed platform, not indexable (unlike Reddit), centralized, etc.
I am hoping that a community without advertising can be created. It would be a community where users PAY a monthly fee… as content creators should be rewarded for their contributions and MUST receive a fair share for their contributions. It would also have an open API so that tinkerers (and most of all, disabled people) can interact with the site in an accessible way.
I think its the perfect community, but how can we create it???
I posted a lot on Reddit and in fact i never wanted to see any money for it. I don’t post because of the money. Instead, I post for fun and for discussion.
That’s what social media with paid ad-free option does already. So called “content creators” will be where the coin is, competing for monetization, making clickbaits, unnecessary filler and putting stupid faces on thumbnails. All that already exists. The point of reddit was being free and community sourced, wich means there is no separation between users and content creators. Absence of economic interest was what lead to relevant and reliable content, to the point people started adding “reddit” to any google query.
Heavily disagree. The internet was better when content was shared for no reason other than desiring to share content. Turning every opportunity to post content into a money generating system is what ruins social media over and over again. Literally every other social media can be monetized; content creators looking to make a buck should stay there.
