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Honestly I’m sad for everyone that works manual labor. Wearing a mask absolutely lowers the chance of both transmitting covid and getting covid, but working in 90+ degree weather lifting heavy shit for 8 hours a day wearing a mask sucks. It gets moist as all hell and fogs your glasses.
Source: I unloaded trucks outside all day 5 days a week for the entire summer of 2020 and 2021.
Id rather be sick for a week than wear a mask doing physical labour.
That’s a dumb take.
What do you do for a living? For many, wearing a mask while working is a recipe for guaranteed heat exhaustion. I’m not subjecting myself to that, and if the illness is anything at all like the last time I had it, it was a goddamn cold.
Wearing a mask in a hospital full of people with compromised health and all sorts of contagions floating around is a really good idea.
Wearing a mask outdoors in the summer time on a construction site full of other able-bodied people is just fucking silly.
What kind of construction work are you talking about if you’re not wearing a mask? Anything that produces fine dust or requires working with volatile chemicals like paints and aerosols requires you to work in a mask at all times. Do you have any work safety regulations in your country?
A lot of people are doing manual labour in a mask even without COVID, but simply to protect their lungs from excessive pollution in a workplace. Don’t be sad, working in a mask is a norm.
IMO people should wear masks if they have to go out with any cold/flu type illness. Stops them spreading their germs to other people.
Covid spreads easily because people who have it are often asymptomatic.
For god’s, sake, it’s been 3.5 years. How do people still not know this?
Why hear mask? Dont leave the house. But the police should make sure this happens!
Fuck, I’m pro mask and all, but… that’s gonna be a hard sell. And tbh I fucking enjoy not wearing one anymore (unless I’m sick or something).
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Hey everybody! Lets all return to the office! Quick! Commercial real-estate landlords aren’t rich enough. We need to fill those buildings ASAP!
Office buildings are either test tubes or petri dishes depending on the height to width ratio.
In the US, it’s extremely unlikely we’ll see more masks being required unless we see the Healthcare system getting overwhelmed with sick Covid patients again.
Politically it will be suicide for the democrats.
Good luck getting the ignorant masses to mask up these days.
Yeah, I think that ship has sailed. When the covid wasn’t as bad as originally thought and with the reports that masks weren’t all that effective even the people who were gung ho aren’t likely to mask up anymore. And I’m not trying to downplay covid or mask effectiveness, but rather talking about the feeling people have right now.
Covid WAS as bad as originally thought!
The whole point of the precautions was to reduce the spread enough to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed and more time to release a vaccine before everyone got it. Hospitals were very close to collapsing in a lot of areas, and if it had not been slowed it would have been far worse.
Don’t confuse successful mitigation with the disease not being as bad as originally thought.
Covid WAS as bad as originally thought!
It was feared as something that would kill people left and right with almost biblical proportions, as the modern day black death or something. You can blame media for overhyping it to sell the news I guess but a lot of people got the idea that it would be a lot more than it actually was.
Don’t confuse successful mitigation with the disease not being as bad as originally thought.
It wasn’t as bad as we thought at first and we managed to make it another season flu almost, so of course people are going to regard the thing as no big deal now. And it would be a really hard job to convince them otherwise
It absolutely was not just another seasonal flu. Do you have any idea how many people died?
It’s now so diminished and most people had sore throat or little fever, that’s what I mean. Seasonal flu kills a shitload of people but nobody really cares about that either.
Physician here. Masks absolutely reduce transmission and the chance of contracting COVID.
Here is the definitive study on the subject.
Here is a video of a presentation by one of the authors along with some demonstrations and explanations.
TLDR: Here is the Abstract:
There is ample evidence that masking and social distancing are effective in reducing severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) transmission. However, due to the complexity of airborne disease transmission, it is difficult to quantify their effectiveness, especially in the case of one-to-one exposure. Here, we introduce the concept of an upper bound for one-to-one exposure to infectious human respiratory particles and apply it to SARS-CoV-2. To calculate exposure and infection risk, we use a comprehensive database on respiratory particle size distribution; exhalation flow physics; leakage from face masks of various types and fits measured on human subjects; consideration of ambient particle shrinkage due to evaporation; and rehydration, inhalability, and deposition in the susceptible airways. We find, for a typical SARS-CoV-2 viral load and infectious dose, that social distancing alone, even at 3.0 m between two speaking individuals, leads to an upper bound of 90% for risk of infection after a few minutes. If only the susceptible wears a face mask with infectious speaking at a distance of 1.5 m, the upper bound drops very significantly; that is, with a surgical mask, the upper bound reaches 90% after 30 min, and, with an FFP2 mask, it remains at about 20% even after 1 h. When both wear a surgical mask, while the infectious is speaking, the very conservative upper bound remains below 30% after 1 h, but, when both wear a well-fitting FFP2 mask, it is 0.4%. We conclude that wearing appropriate masks in the community provides excellent protection for others and oneself, and makes social distancing less important.⭐ <– my lemmy gold for you, excellent writeup
It blows my mind how upset people get about masking. During the two primary years of Covid where I isolated and masked religiously, I didn’t get sick once or even have allergies (despite visiting parks often).
Now companies have RTO and try to get everyone in on the same days so illness spreads like wildfire. People sitting right beside me hacking their lungs out.
It blows my mind how upset people get about masking
The pandemic is when I gave up on the notion that diehard conservatives had even a shred of intelligence or morals. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing from them.
People do not want to be told what to do. They do not want to be inconvenienced.
Personally I hated wearing a mask. it was a huge pain in my ass, and mostly unnecessary most of the time except on public transit or in like a very crowded place like a grocery store.
Where exactly were you wearing a mask other than crowded public places? Nobody ever told you to wear it at home.
In my country, there was a mask mandate in all enclosed areas except private residences, even when you were the only person there.
In what non private residence enclosed places are you alone? I can’t think of any. Are you talking about hotels or… Because yea that would be ridiculous. But also, since you’re alone it’s not like anyone can enforce the mandate or even know you’re not following it.
In my case, it was a hackerspace. It has windows to the street, so if the police would have happened to go along the street and see that, they could have intervened.
There was one report in the newspapers where they fined a small card playing organization due to that, but of course they were a group of people.
I wear masks but I absolutely hate it. Maybe if you work from home you don’t notice, but wearing that thing for 9-10 hours can be a real pain. On top of that you miss a lot of a person’s face, I had to meet a lot of new people during that time and it was hard.
I’m not saying it’s enjoyable. It’s especially awful when it’s hot & humid, if you wear glasses, or when wearing for a long period of time. But when the alternative is increasing the chances of catching/spreading a dangerous virus… well there isn’t much of an argument against.
I’ve never stopped but it’s made me depressed when I was seemingly the only one doing it :/
Never stopped wearing them. COVID never went away.
Thank you. Being with someone who endured a hard cancer treatment and having a weak immune system since then, I really appreciate it if people wear masks where appropriate to protect themselves and others.
Why would you go to work if you know you are not feeling well??
People are dumb.
The masks they peddle in stores are labeled as “not for medical use”. I mean, damn! They have holes in them that I can see through with my bare eyes!
Masks that are protective, are called respirators and are part of a class of equipment called PPE (Personal Protective Equipment). The word “Personal” is in the name, because it is designed to protect the wearer, not those around the wearer, and is limited by the rating (P100 being the rating that will actually reduce the risk of some viral infections a reasonable amount, while N95 is for larger particulates like airborne dust and pollen). Will they (including those rated for dust) help reduce the risk of spread from the wearer to others around her/him? Of course, but only as long as the virus didn’t go airborne and, even then, “only” up to 20% reduction in risk. Airborne viruses, like the coronavirus family of viruses, are able to penetrate the fibers and travel, but the layers of the respirators and non-medical masks slow that travel considerably.
I don’t think that people should be required to wear masks. If you want to wear one, please do so and protect yourself with your PPE. If you’ll see me around, I’ll be wearing mine. But if you don’t want to wear it, I believe that that’s your freedom over your own body. It’s your choice not to wear one, just as it is my choice to wear one. If someone makes fun of you for wearing a mask, I believe it to be your freedom to punch them in their throats.
The issue, as far as I’ve noticed, is that people think they know something, when none of us really do. Even our scientists are waffling back and forth on the subject. We all do what we feel is best for us and ours, and we should allow others to do the same to them and their.
Additionally, if someone around you is terrified, and would prefer you wear a mask, I think you should wear a mask (or not be around them). As I’ve said, we’re flying blind, and, sometimes, we need to feel safe whether or not we really are. Just be a good human.
Lastly, up to 20% reduction in risk of spread isn’t anything to sneeze at, after all (pun intended). Do the right thing, whatever you feel that is, and respect others as they do their right thing.
[E] You don’t have to agree with me, but it is scientifically accurate. I hope you don’t disagree with the “be a good human” part, though, since… why would you not be a good human?
I’m in Australia and half my kids class was sick last week. Me and the kid both tested positive today. It is pretty rough.
Nobody here cares at all any more. This is my first but most people are on their 2nd or more go around. Its not even discussed, there are zero masks, and people are sending their kids to school sick.
All our care and caution just in the bin because people just don’t give a shit
because wearing masks did shit. that’s why.
vaccines did.
It’s funny, I didn’t get COVID while I was wearing a mask, but caught it after we were vaccinated and I stopped wearing them.
I’m not just going to downvote you here, because I think this is an information problem.
Here’s a cool video about mask efficacy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GndKYJ4uBI
And a study on the topic: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm
The tl:dr is that masks are ac5ually extremely effective at reducing infection by respiratory diseases if both the infected and uninfected parties wear them.
wearing masks did shit
Citation needed.
it’s not about science. it’s about public perception. masks didn’t stop covid. vaccines did.
people will not wear masks again. they would probably get another vaccine though.
ending covid = getting rid of mask mandates, in the publics viewpoint.
Ok, in this context you are right in spiritt. Masks are stoping tje spread, but in the grand scheme of things it is mostly about slowing it down.
However I don’t think saying the masks do nothing is right at all. Masks are still useful.
Except he’s not right in any sense with that logic. “masks didn’t work because people feel like they didn’t work” is not a valid argument.
He is right in sense that vaccines “stopped” covid, while masks were mostly just slowing it down but not enough to “stop” it. That’s what I meant by being right in spirit. Otherwise I agree he is wrong.
No, vaccines slowed covid even more than masks, but covid is still around. “Stop the spread” is a more catchy slogan than “Slow the spread” would have been.
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Yeah and dickheads without a clue or a sense of morality will continue to take other peoples lives to save themselves a minor inconvenience. Murica!
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There are 7 million dead people who I’m sure would argue that point if they could. Do you think a respiratory disease spreads through some other means? Or do you just not understand anything about the situation?
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“yall should accept covid killing people cause I want the freedom to unmask” is quite the shit take
Americans are a fucking shitstain on our society man. Douchebag
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I’ve never stopped wearing a mask in public transport/while grocery shopping etc. and I don’t think I will =/
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