As it stands today, unmanned vehicles (entirely operated by AI with no human intervention) still has shortcomings from accidents or collisions. Also, how would society react to AI being the driver? If there’s no steering wheel on an entirely AI operated car: how can you override its protocols when it becomes rogue? There are “self driving” cars, but how many use that as their main mode of transportation than driving a car?

The technology for it exists, but remains rather niche since there’s still more cars driven by people than cars operated by AI. Do YOU want to replace your own car with an AI operated one or rather keep one meant to be used by humans? As of now, it’s rather rare unless you happened to spot one whilst on the road. Most car dealerships only sell “normal” cars intended for humans, even Teslas still require a human driver.

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    We don’t have driverless cars here but that doesn’t matter. No way would I get in one.

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    I have intense driving anxiety and only drive around my area willingly, so self-driving cars (or just more trains) would help me a lot.

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    There are zero human transportable vehicles driven by AI today. The current breed of driverless cars are based completely on Machine Learning - a deterministic technology as opposed to an LLM which is non-deterministic based on noise and randomness.

    I’m absolutely certain all of the idiot takes will be corrected 🙄

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    I don’t trust the currently available autonomous cars any more than I trust other drivers so I prefer to drive myself. Even if it was perfecr I would want the ability to take over whenever I wanred to address some scenarios where I don’t think autonomous would ever be reliable enough in rural areas. If it was good enoigh I would be fine with it on well marked highways or well maintained urban areas, though I’d rsther use mass transit in those situstions.

    Quite a few other drivers should be replaced with autonomous driving as soon as possible.

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    I’m a good driver, and AI is fucking stupid.

    The only way you could possibly convince me to even get into a self driving car would be if my only other option was to get into a self flying helicopter.

    Also, just to nitpick, the self driving car can’t “go rogue”, that would imply that it has consciousness, sentience, an understanding of what it’s actually doing, judgement, etc. a bunch of shit it doesn’t have. Self driving cars can and do “malfunction” frequently, but they can’t “go rogue”.

    Don’t let the techno fascists’ constant anthropomorphic descriptions of their fuckware chat bots confuse you.

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      Mainly, that point is about the software a modern electronic car driven by a human is reliant on can get hacked by a hacker (as in them taking full control virtually but in reality they’re controlling someone’s vehicle).

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        Gotcha, well that’s a different issue (one I believe expands beyond self-driving cars to all new cars that are way more computer integrated than they should be).

        Getting hacked is a good reason to be skeptical tho, it’s probably the slickest way to kill someone and make it seem like an accident.

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        Driverless, which mass transit is actually a better fit for our technology anyways, especially at its current level. However, we as a species seem to be very intent on doing the wrong thing at every point possible.

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          I don’t oppose automation of many of the piloting tasks, but I’d say it’s great to have a human there, too.

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            That’s understandable, and it really depends on the environment. A street car would benefit from a human driver a lot more than a subway or peoplemover would (which is why so many are automated already)

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    I think automatic transmissions were a mistake. There’d be a lot less shit drivers if you had to pass the driving test with a manual.

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    even Teslas still require a human driver.

    That’s because musk is a moron who made Tesla ditch LIDAR for optical sensors.

    Waymo taxis are fully autonomous and are already safer than humans.

    Humans are absolutely horrible at driving. It’s a major cause of death. Computers don’t get tired, distracted, or intoxicated.

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    By the time you solve all the issues with self driving cars you’ll always end up with some form of train. So I would suggest skipping the extra steps.

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      This is the real take. The problem with traffic is that it’s elastic and based on a lack of information. If all vehicles accelerate at the same time and don’t have to slowly increase the distance between the next vehicle due to safety / uncertainty - you get a train.

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      The train has, at least to a lot of people, its own issues. Mainly not bringing people straight to their home or work. Fix that, without being a longer commute than by car, and without being more expensive, and I’m sure a lot of people will be happy to do it.

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        At least 60% of the world population live and work in dense urban areas where rail can leave them on walking distance of both work and home. 20% more live in places dense enough for urban buses. So 80% of the world population doesn’t need a car.

        As for costs, the day drivers are forced to pay the externalities of their driving is the day cars die as a form of regular transport.

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          Really depends where their job is. I wouldn’t be selling my house or moving apartment just because I got a new job, so I could walk there instead of just driving. Just because someone lives in a city, doesn’t mean their job is right next door.

          For the aditional 20% who can use busses, the problem continues to be travel time. Fx. I could take a train, and a bus to get to work. But it’d take about 1 hour. I’m in country with a comparatively great public transportation system, but I can get to work in a car in 15 minutes instead. Sure, if you get anough people to switch to public transportation, maybe you can run more buslines, because there’d be enough people to fill those lines, but you’d need an astounding amount of lines to avoid people having to switch busses, and wasting time by not going a direct route. I have a car because I’m not going to waste 1,5 hours per day on transportation.

          The problem is convenience. If the transportation system isn’t at least as convenient as a car, people won’t use it willingly. They’d even pay a premium to avoid it. You can force people by banning cars, but good luck with that. We’ve seen how the french react when a few speedcameras are installed (Spoiler, they burn them).

          I want car-free cities, with the exception of transporting goods and work that absolutely requires a car. It’d be utopic! But I just don’t believe we can cater enough to everyone’s needs in any kind of satisfactory way, without going completely authoritarian and removing people’s ability to live and work where they want to.

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    The more skills people acquire and use throughout their lives, the better. I prefer people behind the wheels of cars. Some automated commuter trains already exist, and that’s cool, but driving is a skill that should be kept by the masses.

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      I can appreciate useful skills, like how to make rope or make a meal or change a diaper, but being able to drive is only useful because we have made it necessary. I’d rather people have time to learn skills that have some inherent use than have to waste time learning how to drive.

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    Neither. People are dangerous, selfish idiots and robots are created by dangerous, selfish idiots.

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    Humans are bad at driving our multiton death machines. We have slow reaction times, we get distracted, other humans don’t react logically, a true self driving system would be amazing.

    Sadly none of the players on the market seem to actually do self driving good at all.

    Probably we will crack fusion before we have true self driving.